dodgy bike offer from the internet
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 12:36 pm
Hi guys,
Not sure if you heard this but this happened to me only last week. please read if you are trying to sell your bike on the internet!!!
So I listed my bike for sales on bikesales/bikepoint, after a few weeks waiting an enquiry email sent in, trying to set up with a scam so here's the whole correspondence with this 'dodgy guy',
" PROSPECT DETAILS
Name: Rivard Thompson
Postcode: 6172
Mobile Phone: 0406753256
Email: rivardthompson@gmail.com
TRADE-IN DETAILS:
Comments:
Just viewed your listing and will like to purchase it.
Can i pay you $6000AUD for it? i will be paying you with
my PayPal because it's attached to my bank account,If my offer is accepted
send me your email with PayPal including your phone #
so i can pay in right away.I am a petroleum engineer on a rig offshore
and do not have much time on me.
Make sure you get back to me so that i can arrange for
pick up as i will like the item to be picked,so no shipping
included.I await your reply.
Rivard
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From: xxx xxx <xxx@gmail.com>
Date: 2009/9/12
To: rivardthompson@gmail.com
Hi Rivard,
Um, ok, you dont even need to see the bike first? since you are offshore, you just arrange a courier to pick up the bike? Do you need me to arranage a Safty Cert. (QLD) or I dont have to coz your postcode shown that you are from WA.
Yes, I do have a paypal account you can pay it straight away.
regards
xxx
2009/9/12 <rivardthompson@gmail.com>
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From: Rivard Thompson <rivardthompson@gmail.com>
Date: 2009/9/12
To: xxx xXx <xxx@gmail.com>
Thanks for the mail..Due to the nature of my work,phone calls making
and visiting of website are restricted but i squeezed out time to
check this advert and send you an email regarding it.
Don't worry about the pick up,my shipping agent will be coming to pick
it up, I'll like you to send me your address so that my shipping agent
can figure it out and come for the pick up and other necessary
things....more so,send me your PayPal details(PayPal email) so i can
pay in.
Await your response.
Rivard.
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From: xxx xxx<xxx@gmail.com>
Date: 2009/9/12
To: Rivard Thompson <rivardthompson@gmail.com>
Hi Rivard,
I just want to make sure the offer is genuine, and everything will go the way it should be.
The address is xxx xxx, qld
As I asked, are you going to register the bike in QLD or WA? Do you need me to provide a safty cert. (qld)? The bike currently has 12 mths rego on it, if you are re-registering it in WA, I might take the rego off?
If you dont have internet registed access, you can txt me 04xx xxx xxx.
regards
xxx
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From: xxx xxx<xxx@gmail.com>
Date: 2009/9/12
To: Rivard Thompson <rivardthompson@gmail.com>
my paypal acc is "xxx@xxx.com.au", NAME: xxx xxx
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From: Rivard Thompson <rivardthompson@gmail.com>
Date: 2009/9/12
To: xxx xxx<xxx@gmail.com>
Hi mate,am buying the bike for my cousin,he'll register at WA,i don't
think the safty cert is compulsory,any question pls feel free to ask
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From: <xxxx@gmail.com>
Date: 2009/9/12
To: Rivard Thompson <rivardthompson@gmail.com>
OK, in that case, I'll take off the rego and deregister the bike from queensland transport after I confirm the transfer is done on paypal.
Once i confirm the transfer from paypal, you can take the bike from the address i gave u using your shipping agent.
I'm moving interstate in 3 weeks time, so you may have to arrange the pick up before end of the month.
thank you very much.
rgds
xxx
----------
From: Rivard Thompson <rivardthompson@gmail.com>
Date: 2009/9/12
To: xxx@gmail.com
ok mate, i'll be expecting you Paypal email ID
----------
From: xxx xxx<xxx@gmail.com>
Date: 2009/9/12
To: Rivard Thompson <rivardthompson@gmail.com>
it's 'xxx@xxx.com.au'
--
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From: Rivard Thompson <rivardthompson@gmail.com>
Date: 2009/9/12
To: xxx xxx<xxx@gmail.com>
I was just about to make the payment when i had this little problem
with the picking up,I got an email from my agent..i taught i included
that in my previous email.he said he won't come and pick up the item
unless i pay him the agent commission fee first in order to be able to
schedule a pick up time ,and my pick up agent head quarters is in the
United Kingdom and all commission payments made for pick up, from
anywhere in the world is sent to their head quarters in the Uk and the
only form of payments they accept is western union money transfer and
i tried to pay online but i will need a credit card which i didn't
bring along, and there is no post office(there is usually a western
union section in most post offices) or any western union agent
offshore! so i have to ask you to help me with the pick up fees, i
will include the $650 they charged to pick it up and take it my
home(1st class treatment), to the payments i will send through paypal,
after i have made the payments, i will need you to help me send the
$650 to my pick up agent through western union money transfer, the
western union money transfer can be made at a post office near to
you,there is always a western union agent in most post offices or
online at http://www.westernunion.com .I will be making the payments shortly
and will email you as soon as it has been done..
----------
From: Rivard Thompson <rivardthompson@gmail.com>
Date: 2009/9/12
To: xxx xxx<xxx@gmail.com>
I just want to inform you that i have just completed the payment and i
hope you must have been notified in your email about the payment i
made through PayPal, you can check your e-mail for confirmation of
payment, I have just make the payment of $6,750.,i have decided to add
the amount of $750 which i paid through paypal, So please i will like
you to help me wire the sum of $650 to my agent via western union so
he can be able to come for the pick up and also paypal said they won't
release the funds until they get the western union information from
you due to the fact that i emailed them about the excess payment i
made.i will need you to send the $650 to my pick up agent Headquarters
where they normally confirm any commission payment to via western
union money transfer(this can be done from the post office,or online
at http://www.westernunion.com) as they usually have a western union agent
there) , i added extra $100 to cover the western union charges which
shouldn't be more that $60-75 but just to be sure i added $100, Here
is my pick up agent Headquarter info needed to get the money sent
Mark Gardens,
43 ,vine ave,
London,
N194LA.
United Kingdom.
Please kindly email the necessary details to paypal :the mtcn which
you will be given at the western union after the $650 has been sent as
well as the sender's name and address used to send the money through
western union as well as the secret question and answer used in
sending the $650 so i can forward it to paypal or better still you can
email it to paypal directly.
----------
From: xxx xxx<xxx@gmail.com>
Date: 2009/9/13
To: Rivard Thompson <rivardthompson@gmail.com>
Look mate, I'm not saying this is not a genuine offer, but I think there's some tricks here.
First, I never met you and you are offsore and buying the bike for your cousin in WA;
Second, you have provide minimum information about yourself, only an email is the only way to find you;
Thrid, even you send the payment to my paypal account, paypal has inform me that the amount of 6750 would not be credited to my account until i paid 750 via WU to an UK account. So basically i have to get 750 out of my own pocket without having the 6750 physicall sitting in my BANK (not paypal) account. What if I make the 750 and you withdraw the payment from your end.
Fourth, if your cousin is in WA, I can arrange bike logistic for you locally in Brisbane, Australia to an address you dedicated in WA, or I can provide you contact to do so, I just dont why you need an shipping agent and it's offsore, commission fee? is not a sales to them, it's a transport fee, and should always pay to an local agent.
Here's what I want you to do:
Provide your detail to me including your consin's detail;
the address in WA and a contact number I could make a call to on Monday;
if you really want to use this shipping agent, get them to contact me on Monday;
if your account is in Australia, I will prefer Direct Bank Deposit which I can provide you my bank account detail, paypal is not totally trusted to me even I use it all the time.
there's no way I will pay 750 offsore, before I even receive any money in my bank account, I know there's a lot of trust in this, but all my details are with Bikepoint.com.au, so if you think you couldn't find me after you really transfer the 6000, you can contact the police, sure they can find me; but vice versa, I dont even sure how I find you.
Regards
xxx
--"
That's the whole coversation, hope ppl wont fall into one of this scams.
Not sure if you heard this but this happened to me only last week. please read if you are trying to sell your bike on the internet!!!
So I listed my bike for sales on bikesales/bikepoint, after a few weeks waiting an enquiry email sent in, trying to set up with a scam so here's the whole correspondence with this 'dodgy guy',
" PROSPECT DETAILS
Name: Rivard Thompson
Postcode: 6172
Mobile Phone: 0406753256
Email: rivardthompson@gmail.com
TRADE-IN DETAILS:
Comments:
Just viewed your listing and will like to purchase it.
Can i pay you $6000AUD for it? i will be paying you with
my PayPal because it's attached to my bank account,If my offer is accepted
send me your email with PayPal including your phone #
so i can pay in right away.I am a petroleum engineer on a rig offshore
and do not have much time on me.
Make sure you get back to me so that i can arrange for
pick up as i will like the item to be picked,so no shipping
included.I await your reply.
Rivard
----------
From: xxx xxx <xxx@gmail.com>
Date: 2009/9/12
To: rivardthompson@gmail.com
Hi Rivard,
Um, ok, you dont even need to see the bike first? since you are offshore, you just arrange a courier to pick up the bike? Do you need me to arranage a Safty Cert. (QLD) or I dont have to coz your postcode shown that you are from WA.
Yes, I do have a paypal account you can pay it straight away.
regards
xxx
2009/9/12 <rivardthompson@gmail.com>
----------
From: Rivard Thompson <rivardthompson@gmail.com>
Date: 2009/9/12
To: xxx xXx <xxx@gmail.com>
Thanks for the mail..Due to the nature of my work,phone calls making
and visiting of website are restricted but i squeezed out time to
check this advert and send you an email regarding it.
Don't worry about the pick up,my shipping agent will be coming to pick
it up, I'll like you to send me your address so that my shipping agent
can figure it out and come for the pick up and other necessary
things....more so,send me your PayPal details(PayPal email) so i can
pay in.
Await your response.
Rivard.
----------
From: xxx xxx<xxx@gmail.com>
Date: 2009/9/12
To: Rivard Thompson <rivardthompson@gmail.com>
Hi Rivard,
I just want to make sure the offer is genuine, and everything will go the way it should be.
The address is xxx xxx, qld
As I asked, are you going to register the bike in QLD or WA? Do you need me to provide a safty cert. (qld)? The bike currently has 12 mths rego on it, if you are re-registering it in WA, I might take the rego off?
If you dont have internet registed access, you can txt me 04xx xxx xxx.
regards
xxx
----------
From: xxx xxx<xxx@gmail.com>
Date: 2009/9/12
To: Rivard Thompson <rivardthompson@gmail.com>
my paypal acc is "xxx@xxx.com.au", NAME: xxx xxx
----------
From: Rivard Thompson <rivardthompson@gmail.com>
Date: 2009/9/12
To: xxx xxx<xxx@gmail.com>
Hi mate,am buying the bike for my cousin,he'll register at WA,i don't
think the safty cert is compulsory,any question pls feel free to ask
----------
From: <xxxx@gmail.com>
Date: 2009/9/12
To: Rivard Thompson <rivardthompson@gmail.com>
OK, in that case, I'll take off the rego and deregister the bike from queensland transport after I confirm the transfer is done on paypal.
Once i confirm the transfer from paypal, you can take the bike from the address i gave u using your shipping agent.
I'm moving interstate in 3 weeks time, so you may have to arrange the pick up before end of the month.
thank you very much.
rgds
xxx
----------
From: Rivard Thompson <rivardthompson@gmail.com>
Date: 2009/9/12
To: xxx@gmail.com
ok mate, i'll be expecting you Paypal email ID
----------
From: xxx xxx<xxx@gmail.com>
Date: 2009/9/12
To: Rivard Thompson <rivardthompson@gmail.com>
it's 'xxx@xxx.com.au'
--
----------
From: Rivard Thompson <rivardthompson@gmail.com>
Date: 2009/9/12
To: xxx xxx<xxx@gmail.com>
I was just about to make the payment when i had this little problem
with the picking up,I got an email from my agent..i taught i included
that in my previous email.he said he won't come and pick up the item
unless i pay him the agent commission fee first in order to be able to
schedule a pick up time ,and my pick up agent head quarters is in the
United Kingdom and all commission payments made for pick up, from
anywhere in the world is sent to their head quarters in the Uk and the
only form of payments they accept is western union money transfer and
i tried to pay online but i will need a credit card which i didn't
bring along, and there is no post office(there is usually a western
union section in most post offices) or any western union agent
offshore! so i have to ask you to help me with the pick up fees, i
will include the $650 they charged to pick it up and take it my
home(1st class treatment), to the payments i will send through paypal,
after i have made the payments, i will need you to help me send the
$650 to my pick up agent through western union money transfer, the
western union money transfer can be made at a post office near to
you,there is always a western union agent in most post offices or
online at http://www.westernunion.com .I will be making the payments shortly
and will email you as soon as it has been done..
----------
From: Rivard Thompson <rivardthompson@gmail.com>
Date: 2009/9/12
To: xxx xxx<xxx@gmail.com>
I just want to inform you that i have just completed the payment and i
hope you must have been notified in your email about the payment i
made through PayPal, you can check your e-mail for confirmation of
payment, I have just make the payment of $6,750.,i have decided to add
the amount of $750 which i paid through paypal, So please i will like
you to help me wire the sum of $650 to my agent via western union so
he can be able to come for the pick up and also paypal said they won't
release the funds until they get the western union information from
you due to the fact that i emailed them about the excess payment i
made.i will need you to send the $650 to my pick up agent Headquarters
where they normally confirm any commission payment to via western
union money transfer(this can be done from the post office,or online
at http://www.westernunion.com) as they usually have a western union agent
there) , i added extra $100 to cover the western union charges which
shouldn't be more that $60-75 but just to be sure i added $100, Here
is my pick up agent Headquarter info needed to get the money sent
Mark Gardens,
43 ,vine ave,
London,
N194LA.
United Kingdom.
Please kindly email the necessary details to paypal :the mtcn which
you will be given at the western union after the $650 has been sent as
well as the sender's name and address used to send the money through
western union as well as the secret question and answer used in
sending the $650 so i can forward it to paypal or better still you can
email it to paypal directly.
----------
From: xxx xxx<xxx@gmail.com>
Date: 2009/9/13
To: Rivard Thompson <rivardthompson@gmail.com>
Look mate, I'm not saying this is not a genuine offer, but I think there's some tricks here.
First, I never met you and you are offsore and buying the bike for your cousin in WA;
Second, you have provide minimum information about yourself, only an email is the only way to find you;
Thrid, even you send the payment to my paypal account, paypal has inform me that the amount of 6750 would not be credited to my account until i paid 750 via WU to an UK account. So basically i have to get 750 out of my own pocket without having the 6750 physicall sitting in my BANK (not paypal) account. What if I make the 750 and you withdraw the payment from your end.
Fourth, if your cousin is in WA, I can arrange bike logistic for you locally in Brisbane, Australia to an address you dedicated in WA, or I can provide you contact to do so, I just dont why you need an shipping agent and it's offsore, commission fee? is not a sales to them, it's a transport fee, and should always pay to an local agent.
Here's what I want you to do:
Provide your detail to me including your consin's detail;
the address in WA and a contact number I could make a call to on Monday;
if you really want to use this shipping agent, get them to contact me on Monday;
if your account is in Australia, I will prefer Direct Bank Deposit which I can provide you my bank account detail, paypal is not totally trusted to me even I use it all the time.
there's no way I will pay 750 offsore, before I even receive any money in my bank account, I know there's a lot of trust in this, but all my details are with Bikepoint.com.au, so if you think you couldn't find me after you really transfer the 6000, you can contact the police, sure they can find me; but vice versa, I dont even sure how I find you.
Regards
xxx
--"
That's the whole coversation, hope ppl wont fall into one of this scams.
