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V8's VS superbikes
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 4:07 pm
by chicken_strangler
Noticed that story about Troy bayliss (Legend) testing with team vodaphone the other day...this got me childishly thinkin of who would pull off quicker lap times
Neva actually thought bout it till now......pretty sure that the bikes would tear the tin tops up in the corners though
Re: V8's VS superbikes
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 4:17 pm
by Six Addict
other way round mate... cars can outbrake and outcorner bikes standing on their ears, specially a V8 supercar... the superbike would have to rely on acceleration to have any hope of turning a faster lap...
Re: V8's VS superbikes
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 4:18 pm
by myk1979
This may interest you, not a V8 supercar but still a worthy opponent in my opinion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZKRphfVHqI
Re: V8's VS superbikes
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 4:26 pm
by dutchy
a very quick googling found the differance between lap records from superbike to v8 supers to be within a bee's dick!!
For Eastern Creek i found high lap times for v8's were 1:30:6...... and SBK 1:30:2.....
Phillip Island found the v8's highest times about 1:32:5.... and SBK 1:31:8....
Who wants to have a crack at brock over the corner speeds??
Re: V8's VS superbikes
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 4:27 pm
by dutchy
six addict bet me to it!!
Re: V8's VS superbikes
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 4:36 pm
by robracer
Eastern Creek Lap Records
OUTRIGHT Nico Hulkenberg (GER) A1 Lola Zytek 1.19.142 4/02/2007
TOURING CARS
Super Touring Cameron McLean BMW 320i 1:33.8642 07/06/98
V8 Supercars Mark Skaife Commodore VT 1:31.7301 28/03/99
V8 UTES
Grant Johnson Holden SS 1.50.4062 26/11/2006
Lap Records - MOTOR CYCLES
Outright Alex Criville (ESP) Honda NSR 500 1.30.360 20/10/96
INTERNATIONAL
500cc Alex Criville (ESP) Honda NSR 500 1.30.360 20/10/96
250cc Max Biaggi (ITA) Aprilia 250 1.32.080 20/10/96
125cc Haruchika Aoki (JAP) Honda RS 125 1.36.270 20/10/96
NATIONAL
Superbike Jamie Stauffer (NSW) Kawasaki ZXR 1000 1.31.655 09/04/06
Prod Superbike Daniel Stauffer (NSW) Yamaha R1 1000 1:32.982 31/08/03
Supersport Jamie Stauffer (NSW) Yamaha R6 600 1.33.989 18/02/07
Superstock Anton Kokshoorn (Qld) Yamaha R6 600 1.39.375 19/11/06
250cc GP Shaun Geronimi (NSW) 250 Yamaha TZ 1:37.032 28/11/04
125cc GP Jay Taylor (NSW) 125 Honda RS 1:37.930 27/08/00
250cc Prod Aaron Gobert (NSW) 250 Aprilia RS 1:41.320 27/08/00
F1 Sidecar
Steve Abbott (UK)
Jamie Biggs (UK) LCR Suzuki 1.37.420 01/05/05
F2 Sidecar
Warrick Levy
Arron Wilson (NSW) Yamaha DMR 1:45.754 08/14/06
Harley T/sports John Allen (QLD) 1200 Harley-Davidson 1:44.060 08/07/00
SUPPORT CLASSES
Formula Xtreme Kevin Curtain (NSW) Yamaha R1 1000 1.32.657 04/10/03
BEARS Craig Connell (QLD) 996 Ducati SP 1:32.810 12/09/99
Supermono John Allen (QLD) 600 MUZ 97 1:41.890 24/10/98
400cc F/stroke Mark Fullerton (NSW) 400 Honda CBR 1:41.690 30/07/00
Nakedbike Benn Archibald (QLD) Aprilia Tuono 1.35.470 19/11/06
FX Pro Twin Benn Archibald (NSW) Aprilia RSV 1000 1:34.768 14/03/04
Formula Oz John Allen (QLD) 500 Honda 1:35.328 29/09/02
Ultralites F400 Keith Greentree (NSW) Honda CBR 400 1.42.252 14/03/04
Ultralites 250cc Damien Eckersley (NSW) Aprilia RS 250 1.42.820 14/03/04
Re: V8's VS superbikes
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:14 pm
by Smitty
hmmm...interesting this
all I know is...I cant drive a race specc'd Commodore thru Turn 1 at PI
at 230
you end up in the gravel trap
Re: V8's VS superbikes
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:11 pm
by chicken_strangler
wow honeslty thought bikes wouldv ripped em through the corners
or sort of had more of an advantage
Re: V8's VS superbikes
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:27 pm
by supra supra
I think most people here know cars are quicker around tracks but won't admit to it... by which I mean a sorta equivalent car vs bike...
But cars are boring to drive around on the track, it doesn't even have the same thrill as riding a bike. At least you can't fall off your car not unless you tried real hard.
Re: V8's VS superbikes
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:44 pm
by chicken_strangler
supra supra wrote:I think most people here know cars are quicker around tracks but won't admit to it... by which I mean a sorta equivalent car vs bike...
But cars are boring to drive around on the track, it doesn't even have the same thrill as riding a bike. At least you can't fall off your car not unless you tried real hard.
Plus u look 10 times more awsome on a bike
or so iv heard
Re: V8's VS superbikes
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 10:53 pm
by mike-s
here's one vid i uploaded to youtube a while back.
Ducati 999 vs a Lambo Gillardo
Re: V8's VS superbikes
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:27 am
by 2ndclasscitizen
In both that test and the later one they did with a 1098 the bike is clearly holding the car up into and through the corners.
Re: V8's VS superbikes
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:27 am
by Smitty
supra supra wrote:...
But cars are boring to drive around on the track, it doesn't even have the same thrill as riding a bike. :
oh...no they're not
see my above post
flat knacker around PI in a car... in a thunderstorm is NOT boring
Re: V8's VS superbikes
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 3:25 pm
by supra supra
Smitty wrote:supra supra wrote:...
But cars are boring to drive around on the track, it doesn't even have the same thrill as riding a bike. :
oh...no they're not
see my above post
flat knacker around PI in a car... in a thunderstorm is NOT boring
Well... maybe not boring but not as exciting as riding a bike?
Can we agree to that?
Smitty are you faster at PI on a car or bike? Just curious that's all.
Re: V8's VS superbikes
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 3:44 pm
by MickLC
The did a test a while back in AMCN I think, a CBR600 vs some kind of hi specced Porche GT something-or-other at Wakefield Park...the bike won easy and cost less than the optional ceramic disks on the Porche
Extra rubber helps, but bikes can use more of the bitumen and get on the power earlier