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I've just had the beast serviced at the local 'dealer' who uses Motul 5100 10w50 (which is the first time I've used this oil) and as soon as I picked it up the oil was as black as.
It was after hours, so no techie to ask about it.
Now I don't know much about oil, but I would have expected it to be not as black as that, or perhaps a golden colour.
Have they forgotten to change it or is this the normal colour for this oil ?

thanks all

gulf

It's kind of like...... Oil coloured... so no not black. Ask the question

sounds like they have missed it.... does your bike have a dipstick on the oil filler cap? & is that were you are getting the sample oil from? the 5100 is golden in colour but unless your engine has been flushed it will mix with the original oil & darken.

As Rob said, its a golden colour and will darken if oil filter wasn't changed, but it is NOT black.
Sound like they didn't do the oil change.

use 5100 all the time as as said above I have never found it to be black

Thanks for the responses. The previous oil was a very dark colour, but more dark brown not black. This one was pitch from the start.
How could it take up that much colour in such a short time ?
The filter was changed for a new one at the same time.
Closer inspection also reveals that the oil level is fuller than it was previously (that is it's over full), but i'm not sure what that tells me.
No dipstick, so I'm getting the colour thru the site glass which is very clear, so should be no distortion
hmmmm

gulf

gulf690 wrote:Thanks for the responses. The previous oil was a very dark colour, but more dark brown not black. This one was pitch from the start.
How could it take up that much colour in such a short time ?
The filter was changed for a new one at the same time.
Closer inspection also reveals that the oil level is fuller than it was previously (that is it's over full), but i'm not sure what that tells me.
No dipstick, so I'm getting the colour thru the site glass which is very clear, so should be no distortion
hmmmm

gulf

Dark browny coloured oil means you left it in the poor girl far too long!! Will have a destinct zorsty kinda smell about it when you drain it.
Black oil means either 1 it's been cooked shitless or 2 somebody swapped your big $$$$$ 5100 for the old shit in the diesel work ute
Regardless, I'd get it changed real quick plus another new filter.[hint-always change oil hot]

Yes..... take it up with the shop that did the oil change, & find out what they have done

I use that oil and it always looks black as through the sight glass - but it's not.

Mel wrote:I use that oil and it always looks black as through the sight glass - but it's not.

I would disagree there Mel, sorry
I did an oil / filter change on the 400 last night using motul 5100 10w40 & this is what she looks like:

robracer wrote:

Mel wrote:I use that oil and it always looks black as through the sight glass - but it's not.

I would disagree there Mel, sorry
I did an oil / filter change on the 400 last night using motul 5100 10w40 & this is what she looks like:

you mean your not using the "fusch" lube as your sticker says??

i think the 5100 is a bit darker than some oils, but not black. robs looks pretty right for a fresh change

Wattie wrote:you mean your not using the "fusch" lube as your sticker says??

shhhh dont tell my sponsor .........Sticker says nothing wattie its covering crash damage

robracer wrote:

Mel wrote:I use that oil and it always looks black as through the sight glass - but it's not.

I would disagree there Mel, sorry
I did an oil / filter change on the 400 last night using motul 5100 10w40 & this is what she looks like:

I dunno - that's just how it looks to me on my bike. It certainly don't look as clean and nice as the oil in yours!!! Maybe I've got a tinted sight glass or something?? I remember once just before the oil got changed thinking "Geeee that's real black and nasty looking" and once it was in the drain pan Gos saying "geeeeeee that's really good!" about the freshly dumped oil, which was still quite goldeny. Then it looking just as black and nasty through the window once the new oil was in.

It can be deceiving... just stick some on your hand or a bit of paper to see how clear it is... if its black it is pretty much had its day, here is a hint
use a torch & you should be able to get a reflection from the back of the sight glass to show the clarity

The dealer has fuggin ripped ya you poof, go back to the shop and break his fuggin skull, you softcock..

Gulf: "aawwww, I dont know if I can go back, cause they'll treat me like a fuggin idiot, i'll just fork out a pineapple and do it myself"

Chopper: "HTFU Gulf"

regards, unclechopchop..