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Dynojet Fined...

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:29 am
by MadKaw
From MCCoNSW

The California Air Resources Board (CARB) announced recently that it concluded an investigation against Dynojet Research, Inc. At issue was the company's "Power Commander" that can be used to alter the air-fuel mixture and engine timing of on- and off-road motorcycles.

CARB said that the installation of these devices would adversely affect the emissions control systems of vehicles that were certified by the original equipment manufacturers to comply with the agency's emissions standards. Dynojet has now certified a California version of the "Power Commander" and has agreed to pay $1,000,000 in penalties to the California Air Pollution Control Fund.

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DYNOJET RESEARCH, INC. CASE SETTLES FOR $1,000,000 The Mobile Source Enforcement Section along with the Office of Legal Affairs has completed its investigation against Dynojet Research, Inc. located in Las Vegas, Nevada. Dynojet was manufacturing an after market part called the "Power Commander" that would alter the air-fuel mixture and the timing on off and on road motor vehicles.

By installing the Power Commander this would alter or modify the original design of the motor vehicle and would affect the emission control systems that were certified by the manufacture through ARB. As part of the settlement it was agreed between both parties that Dynojet would not violate the Health and Safety Code with respect to the installation, sale, offer for sale or advertising of any device in California intended for use with, or as part of, any required motor vehicle pollution control device or system which alters or modifies the original design or performance of any such motor vehicle pollution control device or system.

Dynojet has now c certified a California version of the Power Commander that is legal for sale and use on California motor vehicles. Dynojet also paid penalties in the amount of $1,000,000 to the California Air Pollution Control Fund as part of the settlement."

Re: Dynojet Fined...

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:42 am
by MickLC
MadKaw wrote:...Dynojet has now c certified a California version of the Power Commander that is legal for sale and use on California motor vehicles...

So this would be one that doesn't "alter or modifies the original design or performance of any such motor vehicle pollution control device or system"? So what would it actually be doing then :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Dynojet Fined...

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:48 am
by MadKaw
Mick C wrote:
MadKaw wrote:...Dynojet has now c certified a California version of the Power Commander that is legal for sale and use on California motor vehicles...

So this would be one that doesn't "alter or modifies the original design or performance of any such motor vehicle pollution control device or system"? So what would it actually be doing then :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I think you will find it will work in a similar manner to the 15 bhp speed chip..

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Re: Dynojet Fined...

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:53 am
by robracer
:lol: :lol: fuggin wankers like it changes that much :roll: hey bet these CARB wankers all drive big V8 cars ;)

Re: Dynojet Fined...

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:17 pm
by Smitty
robracer wrote::lol: :lol: fuggin wankers like it changes that much :roll: hey bet these CARB wankers all drive big V8 cars ;)
naaah...BIGGER stuff like SUVs and Hummers :twisted:

Re: Dynojet Fined...

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:14 pm
by robracer
Smitty wrote:
robracer wrote::lol: :lol: fuggin wankers like it changes that much :roll: hey bet these CARB wankers all drive big V8 cars ;)
naaah...BIGGER stuff like SUVs and Hummers :twisted:
:oops: wot like my F250 XLT ute :oops:.... just got rid of it as its not too suitable for city living

Re: Dynojet Fined...

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:50 pm
by Stereo
You have to bare (or is that bear?) in mind that this is california..... the state that outlawed kangaroo leather because it is cruelty to animals...

Re: Dynojet Fined...

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:14 pm
by Smitty
robracer wrote:
Smitty wrote:
robracer wrote::lol: :lol: fuggin wankers like it changes that much :roll: hey bet these CARB wankers all drive big V8 cars ;)
naaah...BIGGER stuff like SUVs and Hummers :twisted:
:oops: wot like my F250 XLT ute :oops:.... just got rid of it as its not too suitable for city living
drive down Rodeo Drive LA
and be amazed...yeah F250s and stuff like stretched Hummers :shock: and other limos
35' long...

mind you
in CA they are serious about this shit...its the only US state that requires servos to have a suction
device attached to the filler hose so that all fumes are sucked back into the underground tanks
all the while allowing the above hydrocarbon chewing monsters :roll:


cheers
Smitty

Re: Dynojet Fined...

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:56 pm
by robracer
:lol: Im in the printing game & have been over to the states a few times for seminars etc & their clean air/omissions policys are so strict many businesses have had to shut because of prohibitive plant upgrades & new technology placement required to meet the minium standards :?

A while back we had a slight dispute with work cover over our emissions & after having a mechanical ventilation engineer charge me 2k for plans for an upgrade that was cost prohibitive eg $50k+to be spent & would also require us to move our facilitity as we did not have room for the upgrades in the building that we own! .......Fark me .....after months of bullshit from this work cover inspector he kept saying his boss was on his back to get a solution They just walked away with no result as it was too hard :lol: :lol: if this was the states I would be out of business!
Dont get me wrong I bend over backwards for all my employees & we have one of the most comprehensive OH&S policys in our trade but you can only do so much :roll:

Re: Dynojet Fined...

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:57 pm
by Slow and wobbly
So air is now a "resource" too?
Fark me as if paying exorbitant water charges wasn't enough - just because we have cut down on the usage and they aren't recovering enough profit the price goes up!
Does this mean we have to pay for usage of this resource also? I can imagine they would calculate usage on lung capacity multiplied by breathes per minute calculated on an average for the age of the "user". If this is so do you forsee it's possible that we receive a rebate as motorcyclists because generally speaking we have a death wish and are clearly only "Temporary breathers" and will thus use less than the allocated for the average human being over the average lifespan? Certainly if this is to be the case then those bloody cyclists and joggers should be paying far more because they are selfishly partaking in aerobic activity!

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Re: Dynojet Fined...

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:42 pm
by Neka79
so have they sued the exhuast companies for making full systems?? cos that would affect air pollution....

bloody dickheads they are... so now Dynojet will stop selling to California...ppl will get em another way, i kno i would!!

Re: Dynojet Fined...

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:50 pm
by Strika
I think I am in love with the clever little CEO of Dynojet!!! :lol:

My understanding of a power commander is that it is...........adjustable! :lol: So you can sell me one for CA, with the CA emissions map in it....and I can change it in 30 seconds on my lappie!!!!!! :lol: :lol: How the Feck is the EPA gunna know?? Start stopping people and asking if they can connect to the power commander to check the map??? :lol: :lol: Or issue an order to present it at the nearest EPA testing station within 48 hours! Once again it only takes 30 seconds to reload the map! :lol:

Re: Dynojet Fined...

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:45 pm
by Aussie Ninja
The EX version has part of the map blocked.

Re: Dynojet Fined...

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:05 pm
by Neka79
Aussie Ninja wrote:The EX version has part of the map blocked.
so buy one from another state...

Re: Dynojet Fined...

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:55 am
by javaman
I wonder why the company is to blame, and not the people installing them.

It's like fining smith & wesson for that mall shooting thing :lol: