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This warning came to me from a friend, I thought it's worth puting it up here and urge you guys and gals to have a stop ocassionally on these toll road to bring down your speed average....

M5 and the M7 are now equipped with Point to Point speed devices.

Once you enter the M7 for instance you pass the etag and it beeps. At the same time a camera takes a photo of your car and records the exact time.

For those who have exited the M7 they would be aware that upon exit the etag system beeps again as you leave.

At the same time another camera at that point takes a photo of the car and the time. Then the computer calculates the time it has taken you to travel between the two points and calculates your speed.

If you have completed the clocked journey too fast you are given a speeding ticket.

At the present time the speed limit is 100K.P.H. and you have a tolerance of 102 and no more. One fraction over that speed and you are issued with a fine automatically.

Remember, this is going to be a very costly experience for some drivers. It is also going to mean vehicles will be travelling at 95 in order to ensure that no ticket is issued.

What a shock some drivers are going to have when they have used this roadway for a week and get a weeks tickets BOTH WAYS.

Of course your license will also be recalled for three months and you know the rest. Take the advice and if you ignore it remember this email when you pay all those fines.

Also, remember that now with the new legislation, fighting a speed camera fines is almost impossible. You must prove the device is faulty and if you are not a technician working on them, you have no chance of beating the fine.

The Pacific Highway has a set and these are recognized as large steel frames over the lanes with a speed camera and some distance up the road is another large metal frame with a speed camera.

These new point to point systems are being put onto any expressway or highway where vehicles are not able to exit between those points.

Also remember that school zone cameras are not speed tolerant.

Anything over, even 41, is a fine. This means people will be doing 38 to avoid any differences in their speedo readings.



Tammy Umasaran
Corporate Support Officer (Reporting)
Corporate & Admin Support
Ministry of Transport
Phone: 02- 9891 8941
Fax: 02- 9891 8999

Ministry of Transport? how reliable is this info

Media Westlink Dismisses Hoax Email
5/12/2007

Westlink M7 has dismissed a hoax email currently circulating that claims that the motorway has implemented a secret speed fine based on the time a vehicle enters and exits the motorway.
Rachel Johnson, General Manager of Westlink M7, said that the email was a hoax and that no secret speed enforcement system operates on the Westlink M7.
Westlink supports safe driving and urges all motorists to comply with posted speed limits.
“However, the secret speed fine system detailed in the hoax email does not exist,” Ms Johnson said.
“Speed limits are enforced on the Westlink M7 through the normal policing measures that operate on all NSW roads.”
“Westlink meets regularly with the NSW Highway Patrol.”
Westlink has installed signs that remind motorists that speed cameras are used in NSW.
These are the standard speed camera signs seen on roads across the state and do not mean that any new or secret speed system operates on the Westlink M7.


From the horses mouth

There is no point to point..trust me we would all know about it through the media etc, if it did exist. Scary thought

hoffy wrote:There is no point to point..trust me we would all know about it through the media etc, if it did exist. Scary thought

Mate if there was point to point on the M7 I'd rack up 12 points per day.

While this ones a hoax be prepared for it though I reckon. Your toll accopunt tells you time on and time off so you can calculate your own average speed. I don't understand why they wouldn't do it. Theyre also working on the road at Prestons (under the gates) and the M4 junction with trenches cut acroos the road etc. I wouldn't mind betting that'll be some kind of speed device.

It is my understanding they would have to change quite a few laws to implement this in NSW, having said this it will happen eventually,the biggest problem is most of our roads in sydney have too many exits for this to be effective. I hope they don't convert bus lane camera's to capture speed as well........this could really cause some issues for me

I also heard there was a troll under the bridge in Windsor...

Here is an interesting one, the M7 is much like our city link here in Vic. What this means is that it is classed as a "private road" and as such is owned by City link or whoever. As such, the owners are all about one thing....increasing traffic on it's roadway to increase income. Thus, the last thing they want on there roads are cameras to cut into that revenue. Therefore thus far, they have told the various agencies requesting permission to install such, to go jump!!!! Hence the reason also that City-link M7 owners issued a statement discrediting the hoax email to ensure this revenue stream remains. They don't want them as much as we don't want them.

I know for a fact this is true, as I have challenged the gantries on several occasions, giving them ample opportunity to record some very high play school clock numbers both in the car and on the bike with nothing in the mail yet!!!

This point to point system is being tried somewhere in Australia ( not sure where), if successful will be distributed nation wide. Watch this ACA a few months back. So its only a mater of time.

JetPilot wrote:This point to point system is being tried somewhere in Australia ( not sure where), if successful will be distributed nation wide. Watch this ACA a few months back. So its only a mater of time.

They've been here in Vic for a long time. On the Hume and on the Geelong Fwy!