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Hooray for Q ride!

Allowing more people in QLD the opportunity to get onto bikes.

Tho it is still far cheaper to go to QLD transport and have them to a competency assessment for your open licence, $40!

Would be an interesting stat to see how many of these extra casualties were Q riders, but since when have journos let analysis get in the way of a good beatup?

Q ride is a great course, thats how i got my liscence but there is a big downfall with it that it is way too easy to pass. On my course there was one particular chick (and im not picking on the ladies here) her bike control was terrible you could tell she wasnt confident at all, but still managed to pass but people like that shouldnt be given a full open liscence straight up. I would hate to see how bad of a rider youd have to be to fail.

ozten wrote:Q ride is a great course................but ..............................it is way too easy to pass..........

If its way too easy to pass, its not a good course at all. A good course will set you up for a lifetime of motorcyling enjoyment, not be *tacked on* to the end of a sale !

Dealers have a vested interest in selling motorcycles. That is what they do. It is a huge conflict of interest for those same dealers to be involved in selling motorcycles, and also being responsible for the training component. Rider instruction should be held as far away as possible from the influence of any dealer. How about the young chick you saw, clearly not confident or capable ? And she got passed ? Did she buy a bike from the same dealership ? Those bastards should eb put up against a wall and shot if that is the case.

One day someone up there will wake up and smell the roses, and realise that putting the fox in charge of the henhouse was not a good idea..........

If its way too easy to pass, its not a good course at all. A good course will set you up for a lifetime of motorcyling enjoyment, not be *tacked on* to the end of a sale !

Dealers have a vested interest in selling motorcycles. That is what they do. It is a huge conflict of interest for those same dealers to be involved in selling motorcycles, and also being responsible for the training component. Rider instruction should be held as far away as possible from the influence of any dealer. How about the young chick you saw, clearly not confident or capable ? And she got passed ? Did she buy a bike from the same dealership ? Those bastards should eb put up against a wall and shot if that is the case.

One day someone up there will wake up and smell the roses, and realise that putting the fox in charge of the henhouse was not a good idea..........

Yup AND training needs to be separated from assessment.

Gosling1 wrote:

ozten wrote:Q ride is a great course................but ..............................it is way too easy to pass..........

If its way too easy to pass, its not a good course at all. A good course will set you up for a lifetime of motorcyling enjoyment, not be *tacked on* to the end of a sale !

Dealers have a vested interest in selling motorcycles. That is what they do. It is a huge conflict of interest for those same dealers to be involved in selling motorcycles, and also being responsible for the training component. Rider instruction should be held as far away as possible from the influence of any dealer. How about the young chick you saw, clearly not confident or capable ? And she got passed ? Did she buy a bike from the same dealership ? Those bastards should eb put up against a wall and shot if that is the case.

One day someone up there will wake up and smell the roses, and realise that putting the fox in charge of the henhouse was not a good idea..........

Ill rephrase it, the course has potential if it werent for the fact that all you have to do is show up to pass, i do think its a step in the right direction as apposed to walking into the dmv doing your 5 questions then being let loose with your l's without any rider training

i think its a conflict of interest have people selling bikes and selling licenses.

q ride should be an independent company. IMO

ozx6r wrote:i think its a conflict of interest have people selling bikes and selling licenses.

q ride should be an independent company. IMO

Yep, I agree.

I got my license through an independent company. Did one-on-one training until they tought I was sufficiently good, then do a one day course, four students two assessors. Only got a 250 license to start with and then after about 10,000km of riding (~1year) went and did another one day course to upgrade to a full open license. When done like this I think it's a very good program, particularly when you have good trainers.

I got mine through an independent QRide provider, too. One on one the whole time, including a 3 hour assessment ride. Every possible condition - highway, back road, traffic, suburban streets and it even rained! This was back when QRide was just being introduced. I got my full licence straight away after riding off road for a number of years. My first road bike was a GPX250, although my licence allowed me to ride whatever I wanted.

I believe QRide needs to:

1. Be completely independent of motorcycle vendors.
2. Be coupled with a LAMS type scheme
3. Be hard enough to be relevant. Certainly harder than the "get it in an afternoon" type of rubbish I've seen from certain providers. This bugs me a lot.

If it is seen as favourable to get more people on bikes, then real training should be subsidised. QRide's just another good idea with poor execution. That said, I'm surprised there are not more fatal accidents with some of the idiots on bikes around SE Qld. If there have been some of these included in the statistics, QRide's got nothing to do with them whether that's how they got their licence or not.

When I did my liscence with Q-Ride I knew I shouldn't have been on the road in traffic so I spent the next week putting around the back streets getting myself used to the bike so I could concerntrate on what was going on around me. I guess this bit's up to the rider, I started on the 6 but knew that I wasn't good enough to handle full throttle so I didn't use it. I'm sure some people have more confidence in their ability than I did and get themselves into trouble though. Repeating the obvious but Q-Ride should definately be taken away from dealers. If you need to give a liscence to make a sale what are you going to do?