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Knee sliders

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:45 pm
by Slow and wobbly
What do use?
I went back and looked up the post Strika put up earlier in the year where some bloke tested 15 of them and rated them accordingly to his personal taste. But I want to know who uses what and why? So far I have only used the no frills generic plastic type, such as what Kaneg is selling. They do what they are supposed to do, but is it realy worth paying more for something different?

Re: Knee sliders

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 5:43 am
by matt76
I have three sets, one is the ones from Kaneg, one set of sparkies, and a set that came with my Ixon leathers.

The ones that came on my leathers are my favourite by far! They are quite soft plastic and not as hard wearing as the others, but they are a lot quiter (like that really matters :roll: ) and a lot smoother to slide on.

The sparkies are a bit of fun, but i will be tracking down some more soft ones when these are all worn out.

Re: Knee sliders

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:22 am
by robracer
Dont go for ones that have the velcro stapled to the plastic, go for the glued ones as they are less prone to fall appart ;)
I use Kneg ones with no drama to date & the price is right :D

Re: Knee sliders

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:01 am
by Tex Warren
'S funny to think... the plastic cheap ass - stapeled to the velcro sliders that came with my $1200 custom made Tiger Angel leathers are going to be the things that fall apart first... bugger !

Re: Knee sliders

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:19 am
by Glen
I use the Kanegs. For $17.50 plus postage you can't go past them I reckon

Re: Knee sliders

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:01 am
by Tex Warren
Glen wrote:I use the Kanegs. For $17.50 plus postage you can't go past them I reckon
Gotta get them down regularly first, I reckon!
:D

Re: Knee sliders

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:03 am
by Strika
My preference has always been for leather sliders. I will use a variety of different placcy ones if neccessary, however I do like the leather ones.
Why? I just like the feel of them. If you are used to the plastic ones, it does take some time to adjust to leather. They wear a little better than most placcy sliders too, although they are more exxie to buy.

I am not a fan of sparkie sliders, and if you ever join me at the track with them you'll know about it!!!! :lol:

Re: Knee sliders

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:18 am
by Tex Warren
Strika wrote:Msnip

I am not a fan of sparkie sliders, and if you ever join me at the track with them you'll know about it!!!! :lol:
You talking distraction or track damage?

I would think distraction.... IMHO

Re: Knee sliders

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 5:21 pm
by ttc
I've got 2 sets of perfect condition knee sliders :)
One yellow and black L plate and the joe rocket ones..

I might have to lend them to someone to get some street cred :lol:

Re: Knee sliders

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:47 pm
by Slow and wobbly
Well Heres the thing. I was passing Peter Stevens this arvo and decided to call in and ask questions of the staff as to they're recomendations on knee sliders. To his credit the first bloke I spoke with had no experience with them so went and found someone that did - thats a plus for service with me. Now on the shelf the had four different sets with four different prices ranging from $35 to $99. All placcy ones.
Conversation was kinda like this
" If I buy these $99.00 ones will they last 3 times longer than these $35.00 ones?"
"No"
"Aside from they're thickness and profile do they have any characteristics that make them different from one another?"
" These ones are cheap and cheerful and theses ones have a Dainese logo on them. The hardness of them does differ slightly in that one will be harder and act more as a skate ( Dainese )while the other may be a little more grippy ( Cheapos ) "
"Which one would you use?"
"These ones" Hands me the cheapos "For what it's worth there is no point in buying the flashy ones cause they all end up in the same condition eventualy"

So I bought them. Apparently they are the same as fitted to Tiger Angel leathers when new. They are Australian made :D
They are profiled and will interchange between left and right. They are relatively flat as opposed to the upside down tortise shell type.
For the Purpose of evaluation though I will get a set from Kaneg and I am going to borrow a set of exxie ones from a mate who has kept his dainese sliders in mint condition and try them back to back at Broadford in a couple of weeks.

Re: Knee sliders

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 7:14 pm
by Phil
Slow and wobbly wrote:Well Heres the thing. I was passing Peter Stevens this arvo and decided to call in and ask questions of the staff as to they're recomendations on knee sliders. To his credit the first bloke I spoke with had no experience with them so went and found someone that did - thats a plus for service with me. Now on the shelf the had four different sets with four different prices ranging from $35 to $99. All placcy ones.
Conversation was kinda like this
" If I buy these $99.00 ones will they last 3 times longer than these $35.00 ones?"
"No"
"Aside from they're thickness and profile do they have any characteristics that make them different from one another?"
" These ones are cheap and cheerful and theses ones have a Dainese logo on them. The hardness of them does differ slightly in that one will be harder and act more as a skate ( Dainese )while the other may be a little more grippy ( Cheapos ) "
"Which one would you use?"
"These ones" Hands me the cheapos "For what it's worth there is no point in buying the flashy ones cause they all end up in the same condition eventualy"

So I bought them. Apparently they are the same as fitted to Tiger Angel leathers when new. They are Australian made :D
They are profiled and will interchange between left and right. They are relatively flat as opposed to the upside down tortise shell type.
For the Purpose of evaluation though I will get a set from Kaneg and I am going to borrow a set of exxie ones from a mate who has kept his dainese sliders in mint condition and try them back to back at Broadford in a couple of weeks.
i'm using the dainese ones that came on my suit - i actually prefer the wiz ones but that could be just me........and yes they all end up the same anyway ;) I have another set I could sell you if you like your mates

Re: Knee sliders

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 7:42 pm
by Slow and wobbly
The thing that I am struggling with Phil is this; why would I like them? What makes them so much better at seperating my patella from the road than any other piece of plastic?

Re: Knee sliders

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:34 am
by the kid
Tex Warren wrote:
Strika wrote:Msnip

I am not a fan of sparkie sliders, and if you ever join me at the track with them you'll know about it!!!! :lol:
You talking distraction or track damage?

I would think distraction.... IMHO
I hate them , distraction . For someone trying to learn about a track and racing its a real piss off to see a shower of sparks coming at you , and have been told that a piece of hot titanium can stuff your visor as well .
May as well take a handfull of ball bearings out on the track and drop them through corners to "entertain" anyone behind .
Think they are banned in some states for racing .

Re: Knee sliders

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:25 pm
by Phil
Slow and wobbly wrote:The thing that I am struggling with Phil is this; why would I like them? What makes them so much better at seperating my patella from the road than any other piece of plastic?
to answer your questions in order the answers would be dunno, i dont and nothing.

as I said, I actually prefer the cheaper wiz ones, the dainese ones look ok but i like a harder unit as they seem to slide better.

i was just saying that if you did like them, i have another unused pair.

Re: Knee sliders

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 10:22 pm
by HemiDuty
There are 3 main different types of sliders; leather, plastic and ceramic.

I have used all 3, and like the ceramic the best. The plastic ones are ok for tracks where you just put your knee down on corner entry, let it lightly scrape a bit and then pick it up again over the ripple strip and maybe back down again before exit. But as soon as you have a track with one or more corners where you kinda have to keep the slider loaded for a while, such as the one in my profile pic <<<, plastic ones will simply melt.

It is here that you either use Ceramic or Leather. Leather will definitely last the longest, but is kinda 'grippy' and noiseless. I don't mind it, and still have my leather sliders (they will last you like a whole season) but the ceramic ones will certainly 'skate' over the track surface, and make a cool noise as well lol. They have less feel, but it is a personal thing, and I like the less feel. I have heard of people liking leather coz you can try to use it as a bit of a brake or whatever because of the extra friction, but the effect is so minimal.

And as for Titanium sliders, they should be banned from tracks full stop. Fine for the street, but at the track they are way over-kill, and dangerous too. I copped a very loud smack on the visor when a piece of Ti from Stretchy's slider hit me in turn 2 at QLD raceway. (I got him back though when I tried to high-side into him exiting turn 3; it totally stuffed his line lol)...