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Ok, now I have seen it all

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:48 pm
by mobile
Check this out
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Honda-VTR-1000-S ... dZViewItem

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What more to say!!!!

Re: Ok, now I have seen it all

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:55 pm
by Stereo
Uhm... Thought of the day

1. Centifical force caused by a supercharger would cause it to corner very very well one way and very very badly the other way

Re: Ok, now I have seen it all

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 5:30 pm
by Gosling1
Stereo wrote:Uhm... Thought of the day

1. Centifical force caused by a supercharger would cause it to corner very very well one way and very very badly the other way
well, not really in this application. The supercharger spins in a 'fore and aft' plane, not a 'lateral' plane. (ie it spins, probably forwards in relation to the rest of the bike ). This would have more of an effect on acceleration and braking than it would on cornering. To effect the cornering, it would have to be spinning either clockwise or anticlockwise, when viewed from above the bike - a Moto Guzzi has some of this 'lateral' flywheel effect, very noticeable when you blip the throttle at idle.....

This effect has been used on some GP bikes, where they spin the crank 'backwards', in order to keep the front wheel down (amongst other things) - I know it sounds odd, but ya Cannae change the Laws of Physics Jim !!

This bike was in Aussie Streetbikes a few years ago, I remember the article pretty well, and it looks like a good custom build, if you are into this sort of thing. Personally, my bike doesn't need a blower to get 180hp at the rear wheels :lol: :lol: so I would give the supercharger a miss......

8)

Re: Ok, now I have seen it all

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 6:14 pm
by Frank
If I remeber correctly the was a Norton with a blower set up similar to that at EC at the last Barry Sheene day I think it was.

Re: Ok, now I have seen it all

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:16 pm
by Neka79
yea ive seen this thing in abt 3 bbike mags, and ive seen it at the GP in the show and shine....several times...

its pretty damn impressive ill tell ya!!

Re: Ok, now I have seen it all

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:40 am
by Kwakka Kilt
Yeah, I am a Rapid Bike Mag tragic, have almost every issue, and this monster was in there.

Top Marks for Engineering effort I reckon, but I agree that you can get more power cheaper if you just go BIG BORE !! :D

And if you are a complete nutter, then slap on a turbo ..... (Fuel Injected bikes mainly) 8)

Anyhoo, my wee 250 will have to do me for now, mah Kilt would be off at any higher speeds anyway .... :shock:

Noooooooooo

Re: Ok, now I have seen it all

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:38 pm
by Neka79
Kwakka Kilt wrote: Top Marks for Engineering effort I reckon, but I agree that you can get more power cheaper if you just go BIG BORE !! :D



yea ..but anyone can buy a 1200cc bike..to build a 1 of a kind, vtwin supercharged bike..thats cool...

Re: Ok, now I have seen it all

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:38 pm
by mrgoof
It's a neat custom, but not my cup of tea

Re: Ok, now I have seen it all

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:43 pm
by Neka79
mrgoof wrote:It's a neat custom, but not my cup of tea
oh its not a cup of tea, its a supercharger!!

Re: Ok, now I have seen it all

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:40 am
by Kwakka Kilt
Neka79 wrote:
Kwakka Kilt wrote: Top Marks for Engineering effort I reckon, but I agree that you can get more power cheaper if you just go BIG BORE !! :D



yea ..but anyone can buy a 1200cc bike..to build a 1 of a kind, vtwin supercharged bike..thats cool...
I totally agree Neka, in one of my mags I have got a bloke who slapped a teenie weenie turbo onto a 250, revved to 18,000, imagine that : Waaaaaaaaaaaaa !!! Phssssssstt Waaaaaaaaaaaaa !!! Phssssssstt ...... and so on. 8)

The bike ran carbies and no intercooler, must have been a bugger to setup fuelling :shock:

I reckon the perfect bike for turbo applications and lightness (So you can actually do the twisties, unlike a Busa), I would love a turbo Triumph triple, the new 675 Daytona would rock my world (But am still a Kwakka guy mostly)

I am a shortarse, and will never have cash for a new bike, am wondering what the earliest vintage of Kawasaki sportsbike (Like a 600, maybe a 750), has fuel injection ? Much easier to modify for Turbo Applications ..... All the ZXR750's and ZX6's are carbs I think ?

Re: Ok, now I have seen it all

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:55 pm
by Neka79
Kwakka Kilt wrote:
Neka79 wrote:
Kwakka Kilt wrote: Top Marks for Engineering effort I reckon, but I agree that you can get more power cheaper if you just go BIG BORE !! :D



yea ..but anyone can buy a 1200cc bike..to build a 1 of a kind, vtwin supercharged bike..thats cool...
I totally agree Neka, in one of my mags I have got a bloke who slapped a teenie weenie turbo onto a 250, revved to 18,000, imagine that : Waaaaaaaaaaaaa !!! Phssssssstt Waaaaaaaaaaaaa !!! Phssssssstt ...... and so on. 8)

The bike ran carbies and no intercooler, must have been a bugger to setup fuelling :shock:

I reckon the perfect bike for turbo applications and lightness (So you can actually do the twisties, unlike a Busa), I would love a turbo Triumph triple, the new 675 Daytona would rock my world (But am still a Kwakka guy mostly)

I am a shortarse, and will never have cash for a new bike, am wondering what the earliest vintage of Kawasaki sportsbike (Like a 600, maybe a 750), has fuel injection ? Much easier to modify for Turbo Applications ..... All the ZXR750's and ZX6's are carbs I think ?
yea...carbs until abt the 03 zx6r i reckon.....

Re: Ok, now I have seen it all

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 10:40 pm
by Kwakka Kilt
yea...carbs until abt the 03 zx6r i reckon.....
Ah well Neka, there goes my budget turbo bike (For a Kwaka at least) - Later down the track, I think I could get a T595 Trumpy, (Scandalous I know), they turbo nicely, run a piggy back ECU, not too expensive .... Blow through systems have too many issues to work though, like intercooling, never mind the fuelling setup ....

Re: Ok, now I have seen it all

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:21 pm
by Neka79
Kwakka Kilt wrote:
yea...carbs until abt the 03 zx6r i reckon.....
Ah well Neka, there goes my budget turbo bike (For a Kwaka at least) - Later down the track, I think I could get a T595 Trumpy, (Scandalous I know), they turbo nicely, run a piggy back ECU, not too expensive .... Blow through systems have too many issues to work though, like intercooling, never mind the fuelling setup ....
the z1000 uses a zx9r motor.... but with EFI..hence *maybe* the EFI system can be fitted to say a 99 type zx9r??

now a 99 zx9r with EFI and turbo WOULD be different!!

Re: Ok, now I have seen it all

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:25 am
by Kwakka Kilt
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the z1000 uses a zx9r motor.... but with EFI..hence *maybe* the EFI system can be fitted to say a 99 type zx9r??

now a 99 zx9r with EFI and turbo WOULD be different!![/quote]

Aaaw now you are talking my language Neka !! :twisted: 8)

So, If a cheap as pos build was on the cards, maybe an older 99 model ZX9, with z1000 motor, turboe'd ...... :lol:

Hoooly Crap, Boost city, you can run a turbo with a standard motor on low boost, say 8psi, gives about 200 Horse I think.

Plus you don't need to rev the shite out of the motor, hang around 7-9 grand on the tacho and you're laughing (Literally !!)

Re: Ok, now I have seen it all

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:32 am
by Stereo
Kwakka Kilt wrote:
yea...carbs until abt the 03 zx6r i reckon.....
Ah well Neka, there goes my budget turbo bike (For a Kwaka at least) - Later down the track, I think I could get a T595 Trumpy, (Scandalous I know), they turbo nicely, run a piggy back ECU, not too expensive .... Blow through systems have too many issues to work though, like intercooling, never mind the fuelling setup ....
Actually, I believe the 02 was also carborated, thats the old shape.

Correction, double checked...... apparently it is carborated.......