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ZX-10R
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 2:03 pm
by daffy67
Well i went along to a certain 'Team' dealership that shall remain nameless
this morning to see what sort of deal i might be able to do, trading in the VFR you see..
I indicated i was interested but i would NOT be buying the first bike i rode or saw.
Well to cut a long story short i thought the way the whole process was handled to be rather 'lame' for want of a more expletive forum description.
I wanted 3 things:
1. A test ride-got that
2. A firm $$ figure for my VFR as a trade- would not give me that
3. A ride away price on an '06 10, would not give me that unless i sat down to a table and did a deal.
Did i ask for too much???
Yes i went for a test ride on the black demo one, got offered a ride on a ZX-14 from a separate sales person while chatting away.
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 2:18 pm
by Stereo
Thats pretty lame..........
I cant be bothered dealing with people who wont give me an actual price...... I always feel they are trying to withold the price to rip me off..... You know.... the old "give with with one, while you take away with the other" trick...
In fact, I hate sales people.... They should have some sort of robot in there....
"Push here to find out price"
"Push red button to negotiate"
"push green button to purchase"
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 2:27 pm
by Strika
This method of trading is more common in Brisbane in both car and motorcycles, than any other capital city. I really cannot understand, how they expect you to make a purchasing decision when you are unaware of what the amount of money is that you are required to part with!! What they don't realise, is that a lot of the time when you just offer people a good deal and honest advice, they more often than not buy! Idiots!
I would go back in there, walk up to the same salesperson and do the Following.......
"OK mr./Ms. Salesperson, I am ready to make a decision if the price is right!" Allow him to offer a figure, then say that's not good enough and walk out!!!!!!!!
Fight fire with fire I say!!!!
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 2:37 pm
by daffy67
You see if the price was right then i was very inclined to do just that, make a deal right there.
But they misquoted what i said to start with, and i'm not going to argue because i know what i said.
When i was car shopping with the wife 2 years ago we got the exact same treatment, we walked out of every dealer that treated us this way.
Stereo the robot would have been more useful i reckon.
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 2:44 pm
by MadKaw
I believe Hoffy was given the same treatment at a local team shop down here...
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 3:06 pm
by Stereo
I have found by accident a great way to purchase....
Lets say they say they will sell it to you for $12000
You say... I have exactly $10,900 in cash....
They will say something along the lines of "blah blah blah offer a bit less"
you say ... I dont think you understand.... I really just have $10,900 IN CASH available to me ..... I am willing to spend it here... right now.... or I can keep shopping around....
You have to be prepared to walk away..........
I got about 30m away before they called me back
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 3:10 pm
by MickLC
Stereo wrote:...You have to be prepared to walk away..........
The key to any bargaining situation
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 3:17 pm
by daffy67
Mick C wrote:Stereo wrote:...You have to be prepared to walk away..........
The key to any bargaining situation
And walk/ride away i did.
zx10r
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:31 pm
by zx10r
i picked up my zx10r last week and had the same thing happen i didnt take the bait the bike was $14 850 i talked to them the previous week and one of the salesmen said $13 500 was the lowest they wuold go so i left it at that,then a week later i went in there told them i could get the same bike with less kms 12 months rego but one problem it was green and i didnt mention it was a repairable right off,this salesmen was not the same one that wouldnt go less then $13 500,so i told hime $12 000 and ill do a deal today,he gave the seat a bit of a hit and said lets see what we can do,he then satarts with this legally binding contract which meant that if the manager could do it for $12 000 and i had sighnd that contract i would be obligated to buy it i said im not sighning anythin go and see if you can give it to mee for $12 000 so off he went,right then i was hping he couldnt do cause the motorcycle trader had come out that day and i hadnt read it yet,he come back with $12 200 i sai no $12 000 of he goes,comes back with $12 100 i said no,i said i need money for transfer cant do it and i dont have money on me for a deposit,so off i went as im driving off he run out and said dont worry about the deposit just come and sighn the contract i said ill call you back on that,so i called him up the nex morning and said i would take th bike still at $12 000 and he said ok,yhat just show the margin they can play with,you can always make them bust.
Re: zx10r
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:45 pm
by Wattie
zx10r wrote:i picked up my zx10r last week and had the same thing happen i didnt take the bait the bike was $14 850 i talked to them the previous week and one of the salesmen said $13 500 was the lowest they wuold go so i left it at that,then a week later i went in there told them i could get the same bike with less kms 12 months rego but one problem it was green and i didnt mention it was a repairable right off,this salesmen was not the same one that wouldnt go less then $13 500,so i told hime $12 000 and ill do a deal today,he gave the seat a bit of a hit and said lets see what we can do,he then satarts with this legally binding contract which meant that if the manager could do it for $12 000 and i had sighnd that contract i would be obligated to buy it i said im not sighning anythin go and see if you can give it to mee for $12 000 so off he went,right then i was hping he couldnt do cause the motorcycle trader had come out that day and i hadnt read it yet,he come back with $12 200 i sai no $12 000 of he goes,comes back with $12 100 i said no,i said i need money for transfer cant do it and i dont have money on me for a deposit,so off i went as im driving off he run out and said dont worry about the deposit just come and sighn the contract i said ill call you back on that,so i called him up the nex morning and said i would take th bike still at $12 000 and he said ok,yhat just show the margin they can play with,you can always make them bust.
can you come with me when i buy a new bike one day??
thats awesome!!
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:15 pm
by Saki
tell them next time, u have $500 if they don't like it then u will go shopping else were!
Re: zx10r
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 7:38 pm
by zx10r
Wattie wrote:zx10r wrote:i picked up my zx10r last week and had the same thing happen i didnt take the bait the bike was $14 850 i talked to them the previous week and one of the salesmen said $13 500 was the lowest they wuold go so i left it at that,then a week later i went in there told them i could get the same bike with less kms 12 months rego but one problem it was green and i didnt mention it was a repairable right off,this salesmen was not the same one that wouldnt go less then $13 500,so i told hime $12 000 and ill do a deal today,he gave the seat a bit of a hit and said lets see what we can do,he then satarts with this legally binding contract which meant that if the manager could do it for $12 000 and i had sighnd that contract i would be obligated to buy it i said im not sighning anythin go and see if you can give it to mee for $12 000 so off he went,right then i was hping he couldnt do cause the motorcycle trader had come out that day and i hadnt read it yet,he come back with $12 200 i sai no $12 000 of he goes,comes back with $12 100 i said no,i said i need money for transfer cant do it and i dont have money on me for a deposit,so off i went as im driving off he run out and said dont worry
about the deposit just come and sighn the contract i said ill call you back on that,so i called him up the nex morning and said i would take th bike still at $12 000 and he said ok,yhat just show the margin they can play with,you can always make them bust.
can you come with me when i buy a new bike one day??
thats awesome!!
you dont need me trust me it would be easier if you could flash the the cash in frint of them,you just have to make sure thats the bike you want so you dont have all this cash with you,i also bought a cbr600rr last year the price was $10 990 i ended up getting it for $9 500 it was on consighnment though but still they didnt get that extra chunk of commission they would have liked.
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:50 pm
by mitch179
team homo dont wanna know u unless u sit down give them all your deets so they can hassle you later.
bunch of useless pricks, ive seen there fucked up ways of doing business and it makes me sick cause its ruining the motorcycle industry in aus IMO.