OK, there are as always valid points on both sides here.
I would however, if I may, offer some criticisms; I will start with Mr Diesel:
diesel wrote:...the majority of people in our society through the process of representation in parliament have agreed that this is what is preferred. wanna change things? lobby parliament, run for parliament yourself, do something constructive that actually has the ability to make a change. pointless you might say. that's because the majority of people actually agree with the laws, cos funnily enough, that's how they became laws in the first place. yes, this is a democratic society and everyone is entitled to their opinions but what good is it doing you?
Actually, in pretty much every poll you find, the (usually vast) majority are
opposed to speed cameras, and most also believe them to put revenue before safety. And I won't go into how exactly how well we are 'represented' in our current parliament either, or how an election is usually won or lost on issues other than speed cameras, thereby taking away our ability to vote for or against them. Because if it came down to a "Want them or not?" vote, I can tell you which way it would go.....
diesel wrote: another point.
"you concentrate more when your speeding"
ever heard of a bloke named alfred einstein?
Actually it's
Albert
diesel wrote:he's famous for his theory of relativity. basically it's all about perception.
Not to nitpick, but there are 2 theories (Special and General), and neither no it has much to do with perception. But that is for another discussion, perhaps on another forum.
diesel wrote:how long before driving at 130 is boring and you need to drive at 160 to be able to concentrate?
is driving at 100 suddenly more demanding therefore requiring more concentration if the speed limit is 70, or more to the point, everyone else is doing a lesser speed? don't give me that bullshit. there was a time when cars struggled to do 60mph flat out in top gear. thank fuck i wasn't around for that, i woulda fallen asleep everywhere i drove.
I think most people here could agree that after a day at the track or a serious blat, sitting on 160 seems really slow. perception people.
You do have a point there, speed perception changes with speed travelled. But there is a case to be made for the fact that travelling 1000km at 100 km/h is more likely to cause driver fatigue than doing it at 130km/h.
diesel wrote:I'm no angel, i enjoy a spirited blat as well, but i'm also aware of the consequences of my actions before i plant the foot or twist the wrist, therefore accepting the punishment the instant i break the defined boundaries. don't kid urself. there's no grey area. there is a defined limit on every road. not an advised speed. you either drive at a speed above or below this limit. if you drive below, you won't get booked. if you drive above, you may. and the fact that breaking the law in this instance doesn't bring with it a guaranteed penalty, we should all feel pretty damn lucky.
you can't simply do what you like in this society. despite my views on right and wrong, i'm still intelligent enough to realise that my actions affect others and in order to function in this society, achieve goals i've set for myself, and live with a certain degree of happiness, i know i have to toe the line, or accept the consequences if i don't.
With this, I totally agree.
diesel wrote:you may find yourself on the other side of the fence one day.
and when a loved one is hit by a car travelling at 100kmph, i hope you can stand in front of the camera and say that it wasn't speed that killed your kin. the driver fell asleep cos he was so bored. the speed limit should be lifted from 50 to 130 outside school zones.
and before you reply saying that ni'm taking your words out of context or that i'm being excessive or flippant in my examples, pull ur head out of ur arse and actually have a think about how you would like things to be. read what you've written. this is apparently what you people want.
EDIT: thank fuck you people aren't in any position of real power.
This is quite frankly, ridiculous.
I get the feeling that maybe you have lost a loved one to a speeder, and if this is so, I am honestly sorry. But it has skewed your take on things a little. You are getting way too emotional about it.
Would it suprise you to find out that most fatal accidents are NOT caused by speeding? Every independant study undertaken shows that speeding accounts for a minority of fatal accidents.
More in a sec or I will loose my login.....
I've done it in a car, on the road, but I don't actually feel that more than 150 -160 is necessary.