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Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 9:13 pm
by Benno
Neka79 wrote:Strika wrote:LEGS wrote:Thanks for the info peoples.
Get the gist of what you are all saying….
I am 6’4” and weigh 100kg. I have owned & ridden many bikes from motocross to road bikes (YZ 80, CR 250, KX 250, XL 600, Z1000 MK2, GPZ 900, ZX 1100).
My preference these days is for track riding (as I like to keep my license).
If thats what you do then you will kick yourself if you bought anything but a ten!!! What an absoultely awesome track day tool. If ya buy it, can I have a ride???/ Please please pretty please........I'll even let you ride my ten year old old dunger track hack 600 as contra!!!!!!
as silly as it sounds..strika has a point...
let ME have a ride too...
no..the point was...why not buy a track toy AND a road toy??
hehe im thinking new car or new roadie..cbr becomes my "track hack"
But isnt a fast bike better for a "track hack"?
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 9:14 pm
by Wadda
I had the same dilemma until three weeks ago. Not a bad predicament to be in but still a decision had to be made. I love the look of the new 10 with the ohlins, under seat exhaust etc etc. It was awesome to ride but as previously mentioned I had a go of the 12 and fell for it.
I recently broke my wrist in a dirt bike saga and I could really feel it once I got off the 10. I was willing to put up with the pain just to have it but found the 12 suited my riding style better.
They were very similar in price when I was looking. I have not been disappointed at all and I am looking forward to the trip to Phillip Island.
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 9:18 pm
by Phil
Benno wrote:Neka79 wrote:Strika wrote:
If thats what you do then you will kick yourself if you bought anything but a ten!!! What an absoultely awesome track day tool. If ya buy it, can I have a ride???/ Please please pretty please........I'll even let you ride my ten year old old dunger track hack 600 as contra!!!!!!
as silly as it sounds..strika has a point...
let ME have a ride too...
no..the point was...why not buy a track toy AND a road toy??
hehe im thinking new car or new roadie..cbr becomes my "track hack"
But isnt a fast bike better for a "track hack"?
not always, i reckon strika & mitch have got the perfect track bikes.....
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 12:40 am
by QLDZX6R
greeny wrote:Hey here;s an idea.
Ride both and buy the one you like to ride better.
Then check with Insurance to see which one they will rip you off more with
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 8:23 am
by Strika
Phil wrote:Benno wrote:Neka79 wrote:
as silly as it sounds..strika has a point...
let ME have a ride too...
no..the point was...why not buy a track toy AND a road toy??
hehe im thinking new car or new roadie..cbr becomes my "track hack"
But isnt a fast bike better for a "track hack"?
not always, i reckon strika & mitch have got the perfect track bikes.....
Perhaps maybe not perfect, as Mitch and I will attest too
But not bad all the same. A well set up mid 90's 600 is a joy as a track bike. They are realtively light, and have enough but not too much power. they are also relatively easy to ride fast. Which is important. Most B and C grade racers can lap faster on a 600 than on a SBK believe it or not. As the increase in power takes loads more skill to control and be able to utilise on a track.
As far as being competitive is concerned, I still race at club level against the modern stuff. Last outing before I blew it up (Overreved it when ti 1.slipped outta gear, and 2. wheelspan in the wet) I got a third against the modern SBK's. Mind it was at a tight track, which takes away the SBK's power advantage to some degree. So they are not slow, I guess is what I am saying.
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 2:05 pm
by Neka79
Benno wrote:Neka79 wrote:Strika wrote:
If thats what you do then you will kick yourself if you bought anything but a ten!!! What an absoultely awesome track day tool. If ya buy it, can I have a ride???/ Please please pretty please........I'll even let you ride my ten year old old dunger track hack 600 as contra!!!!!!
as silly as it sounds..strika has a point...
let ME have a ride too...
no..the point was...why not buy a track toy AND a road toy??
hehe im thinking new car or new roadie..cbr becomes my "track hack"
But isnt a fast bike better for a "track hack"?
ideally..but whats faster than a half trashed honda that u no longer have a respect for??...certainly not gunna put a new z1000/zx12r etc on the track & keep my old blade for a roadie...
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:29 am
by HemiDuty
Hmmm, I dunno. I still think the more powerful the better for the track. I may have to race something slower in the future due to budget constraints, but will still always think of SBKs as the ultimate.....
Now as for the road, I don't mind have less power there. I don't have the best self-control when it starts getting fast and fun. If it has more power I will use it.
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:33 am
by Strika
HemiDuty wrote:Hmmm, I dunno. I still think the more powerful the better for the track. I may have to race something slower in the future due to budget constraints, but will still always think of SBKs as the ultimate.....
Now as for the road, I don't mind have less power there. I don't have the best self-control when it starts getting fast and fun. If it has more power I will use it.
If you read those crash statistics from the Hurt Report, your less likely to actually be involved in a crash on a larger capacity bike, than on a smaller capacity bike. The flip side of course to that, is that the report also states that if you do crash one, you're more likely to die!
But hey, it's a trade off
After riding a litre sports bikes on that long 170 k ride we did on Sunday............. I really don't think I rode it any faster than I did my old 636. But it was easier, cause I didn't need to be as commited in the turns, and could rely on the right wrist to make it up. Lazy riding, very lazy riding. Gear changes naturally were something you didn't need to do, as they have loads of grunt. However I did keep it between 7-10 most of the day, just to enjoy it while I had it available
So, go get the fastest most powerful thing you can find/want/afford and enjoy I reckon!!!!! Bikes are supposed to be mental I think!!
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:37 pm
by Phil
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 2:17 pm
by Strika
They make it sound like an R1 in green Phil!!!
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 2:21 pm
by javaman
That's it! The 10 is my next bike (in few yrs
)
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 2:24 pm
by Strika
javaman wrote:That's it! The 10 is my next bike (in few yrs
)
If you sell all the add ons on your 6 down at Sims metal Andi, you could nearly afford a new one now!! they are chucking em out at 15 grand!!!
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 2:27 pm
by Benno
They make it sound like an R1 in green Phil!!!
Yeah, except its fast
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 2:28 pm
by Phil
Strika wrote:javaman wrote:That's it! The 10 is my next bike (in few yrs
)
If you sell all the add ons on your 6 down at Sims metal Andi, you could nearly afford a new one now!! they are chucking em out at 15 grand!!!
even less now...........
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 2:30 pm
by Phil
Strika wrote:
They make it sound like an R1 in green Phil!!!
well when i rode them the zx10 and R1 were the 2 i liked best, I also really liked the MV but seeing as I could have a zx10 AND and R! for the same price it has to be penalised somewhat.
the 10 feels like its got a little more power than the r1, but at 160 + RWHP its all relative i guess.