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Re: Out for 2-3 months- Minor Accident
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:45 pm
by kawa 06
I think you will need a lot of stickes after strika cut u up( lmao ). but all jokes a side i'm only new to riding as well from a 250 to a z750 and i will listen and take every thing in that these guys say to me forget the sticks and the chick that went passed you should remember what evey one say if you look at the groung thats where the bike and you will go
.Sorry not beening harsh on you mate but you do not have to keep up with the other rides in this club ride to your abilities and it will come.
P.s my saying is you got to grawl before you can walk
Re: Out for 2-3 months- Minor Accident
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:46 pm
by Glen
That's unfortunate fitzy but somewhat inevitable when you're learning. Good thing is you come out OK and as Marty is saying learn from it.
Please reread Martys posts though as he's dead spot on. I know the part of the old road where you probably crashed. I'm tipping it was the downhill section on the second part on the way to the slab. Me and Hoff have done it the last couple of weeks early in the morning when it's cold and greasy. Granted there are leaves and shit all over it and therefore you need to take some caution but trust us, a stick (unless it's a really big one) won't bring you down if you keep your nerve, keep on the gas and keep leaning. You'll slide, move, regather and in all that if you don't shit yourself and grab a fistful of brakes you'll come out the other side.
Analyse what happened and get it straight in your head. No matter what happens it is always your fault, just accept that and learn from it and you'll be fine.
Hurry up and get better and get back on the bike. Good luck with it.
Re: Out for 2-3 months- Minor Accident
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:58 pm
by Kermit
Fitzy I'm no expert, however what strika is referring to is that your survival reactions (SR's) caused your crash, the SR's in your case is target fixation (ie branch, gravel, oil on the road etc) and jumping on the brakes. Its these natural survival reaction that inexperienced riders on a bike should unlearn & this is achieved via experience and or schooling; if you don't it will lead to further injury.
Whilst your in convalescence check out Twist of the wrist of volume II, available in both a book and video. The book is better as there is a lot more concepts covered including SR's which I mentioned above, and other things like throttle control (the most important), counter steering, use of brakes, gearing, balance of the bike & selecting correct lines through corners.
Ive read the book twice and no doubt I will keep re-reading it to unlearn wrong techniques.
Re: Out for 2-3 months- Minor Accident
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:48 pm
by TyM2Go
all taken into consideration will get me an audio/video version of it since my arms are fucked, and yea i suppose it was me trying to save my self from it which caused what i like to call the fuckery of 2012 hoping its the last mistake i make i hope, after careful thought decide to postpone my plans and invest in an advance course once im at a100% mobility
Re: Out for 2-3 months- Minor Accident
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 12:04 am
by oldman
Remember opinions are like arseholes, everybody has one. That does not mean you should discount any advice, it just means evaluate it and apply what pertains to you. Everybody makes some good points, (except me). Get well soon, and remember you are in charge of yourself, do what you want to do not some other arseholes suggestion. cheers!
Re: Out for 2-3 months- Minor Accident
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:02 am
by TyM2Go
thanks mate and yea i was going downhill
Re: Out for 2-3 months- Minor Accident
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:13 pm
by Possum
Good on you for posting up your accident that took nuts. After it’s all said and done glad you've realised the benefit of gear. Your lessons also go along way to showing others how to preserve themselves.
blackster wrote:Whilst your in convalescence check out Twist of the wrist of volume II, available in both a book and video.
There is a section on the DVD that shows how to ride corners in wet/greasy conditions. Well worth a look and explains with visuals what Strika is explaining. Confidence in yourself is one thing, Confidence and nerve holding your line in less than ideal conditions is something else.
Hope your back in the saddle soon.
Re: Out for 2-3 months- Minor Accident
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:18 pm
by smithy5
Glad to hear you came away relatively ok Fitzy. Could have been a lot worse. Heal up quick and get back on the road.
Re: Out for 2-3 months- Minor Accident
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:12 pm
by TyM2Go
downloaded the video gonna watch it tomorrow
bike is going to be delivered to me next week ill post up pics cant wait for the bones to heal i see other riders on the road and i get depressed

not that i crashed but more that i cant ride

Re: Out for 2-3 months- Minor Accident
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:04 pm
by Strika
As you have no insurance, see if you can enlist the help of some of the more knowledgeable members in Sydders to help with the rebuild. They will know where to get stuff cheap and help you pull it apart and put it back together. It will save you literally thousands compared with having a shop do it. I am sure there will be some members happy to assist in some way. I know the Melbourne crew certainly rally around when a tip over happens.
Re: Out for 2-3 months- Minor Accident
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:34 pm
by Kermit
Ok, I will put my hand up as firey helped me and karma tells me I should pay it forward. I'm not as knowledgeable as some of the other guys here; but I've stripped all the aesthetics and some mechanical stuff off a 250R apart and put back together again successfully.
Its a lot easier to work on compared to a zx6r. If your wondering fitzy why i stripped a 250R it was when I was modify it and in retrospect it was a waste of money; I have the workshop manual for the 250R, as for referencing correct part numbers for your year model; take a look @
http://www.kawasakipartshouse.com/ and use the index.
For parts if you choose to go through a dealer I suggest you look at one of the forum sponsors like flywheels, they give 10% off parts. Other choices are ebay or
WET4Uracing who is local, he used to be on this site; but is no longer (dont know the reason why) he seems to stock lots of stuff for the 250R.
Anyway, I can spare few hours on a weekend; when your arm is up to holding a spanner I can lend a hand.
Re: Out for 2-3 months- Minor Accident
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:47 pm
by TyM2Go
yeah sounds like a great plan i was going to make a post in regards to rebuilding if i could tag along with some people on their projects just to know what thier doing hopefully learn something but this also is another great idea
but i still have to wait for the bike to get here next sat/ sun can review the damage from there fully and plan from that point
sounds good blackster ill take you up on your offer after i fix my physical self
cheers
Re: Out for 2-3 months- Minor Accident
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:09 pm
by Strika
Good work Blackster. If you've pulled one apart before, that will help him out immensely.

Re: Out for 2-3 months- Minor Accident
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:55 pm
by TyM2Go
just went through the wrist 2 video and it turns out my sr +visual techniques is what put me in this predicament along with other factors
great insight all though i must say those guys cant act at all but the message gets through very clearly
Re: Out for 2-3 months- Minor Accident
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:25 pm
by Possum
TyM2Go wrote:just went through the wrist 2 video and it turns out my sr +visual techniques is what put me in this predicament along with other factors
great insight all though i must say those guys cant act at all but the message gets through very clearly
