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born green wrote:

laidback wrote:Once again this is a simple rule for a complex problem.
How does drinking a beer differ from drinking a can of coke...or my fav coffee milk.

The real test should be if the activity you are doing affects your ability to drive. Obviously this would be harder to enforce/prove so take the easy approach and ban beer and using a mobile.

Couldnt agree more laidback..... so u finish work, drop in the shops, its a hot day, u grab a drink, so whats the difference on a udl, or a can of soft drink????

Naked Twin wrote:

Leanne wrote:

smithy5 wrote:Pretty sure they can't take you from your home for a breath test. And they don' t need to cause their word/opinion stands up in court.
I knew a guy that got done on a gixer for speeding. The copper caught up with him in his driveway. The guy admitted to speeding & having a few beers. Copper admitted he couldn't test him, no trip to the station, no radar reading & no breath test. However he was Charged & convicted speed manner dangerous & PCA. Probably a lot to do with his admissions on the night which I assume the copper recorde at the time.

You're right Smithy5

Not so sure about that. RTA links are useless at the moment. To be done for PCA they have to get a reading from their breathalyzer at the station as I was told by a solicitor otherwise it can be thrown out of court. All PCA essentially go to a magistrate thus the requirement.

laidback wrote:Once again this is a simple rule for a complex problem.
How does drinking a beer differ from drinking a can of coke...or my fav coffee milk.

The real test should be if the activity you are doing affects your ability to drive. Obviously this would be harder to enforce/prove so take the easy approach and ban beer and using a mobile.

dutchy wrote:

born green wrote:

laidback wrote:Once again this is a simple rule for a complex problem.
How does drinking a beer differ from drinking a can of coke...or my fav coffee milk.

The real test should be if the activity you are doing affects your ability to drive. Obviously this would be harder to enforce/prove so take the easy approach and ban beer and using a mobile.

Couldnt agree more laidback..... so u finish work, drop in the shops, its a hot day, u grab a drink, so whats the difference on a udl, or a can of soft drink????

The difference now is the offence. "fail to have proper control" if your drinking a soft drink while driving, and the more specific offence if the drink is alcoholic.

Also, there is a DUI charge available in victoria that can be issued in the event that there is no evidentiary breath test, just so you know.

born green wrote:

dutchy wrote:

born green wrote:
Couldnt agree more laidback..... so u finish work, drop in the shops, its a hot day, u grab a drink, so whats the difference on a udl, or a can of soft drink????

The difference now is the offence. "fail to have proper control" if your drinking a soft drink while driving, and the more specific offence if the drink is alcoholic.

Also, there is a DUI charge available in victoria that can be issued in the event that there is no evidentiary breath test, just so you know.

I understand its now an offence to have a alocholic drink in ur hand.. i dont have a prob with the law change, but if ur under .05, where does that make u more dangerous, than say a can of coke, or a burger, or chicks doing there hair, nails, ect while driving??? I know what ur going to say, but we see people doing those things a hundred times a day... hell when i was truck driving i could tell u things ive seen that would make ur hair curl, when u get to look down into cars....

seiko1 wrote:Drinking while driving your paddock bomb rules!
That law is the one of the biggest piles of totalitarian shit I have ever seen!
As for .05 .....05 is the limit they advertise and have advertised for donkey's year's right?
In a 60 zone you can sit on 60...same for 50, 70, 80 ,90 100 and 110 and not get booked because you are on the limit!
If you blow .05 you get booked! WTF is that bullshit? so the limit ACTUALLY .049!

Chitchats wrote:

seiko1 wrote:Drinking while driving your paddock bomb rules!
That law is the one of the biggest piles of totalitarian shit I have ever seen!
As for .05 .....05 is the limit they advertise and have advertised for donkey's year's right?
In a 60 zone you can sit on 60...same for 50, 70, 80 ,90 100 and 110 and not get booked because you are on the limit!
If you blow .05 you get booked! WTF is that bullshit? so the limit ACTUALLY .049!

You may find they "advertise" the limit as Under .05,

Naked Twin wrote:

Leanne wrote:

smithy5 wrote:Pretty sure they can't take you from your home for a breath test. And they don' t need to cause their word/opinion stands up in court.
I knew a guy that got done on a gixer for speeding. The copper caught up with him in his driveway. The guy admitted to speeding & having a few beers. Copper admitted he couldn't test him, no trip to the station, no radar reading & no breath test. However he was Charged & convicted speed manner dangerous & PCA. Probably a lot to do with his admissions on the night which I assume the copper recorde at the time.

You're right Smithy5

Not so sure about that. RTA links are useless at the moment. To be done for PCA they have to get a reading from their breathalyzer at the station as I was told by a solicitor otherwise it can be thrown out of court. All PCA essentially go to a magistrate thus the requirement.

smithy5 wrote:

Naked Twin wrote:Be wary of the not being able to be breath tested on your own land. Whilst technically that is correct the Police can still take you back to the station for breath test and you can be charged for PCA or drink driving.

in NSW you cannot be tested on your own property, but the copper as a trained professional can make observations of you which can be used in court. Eg Staggering, red eyes, slurred speech , playing sword fights with a mate while urinating , trying to crack onto the ugly chick/bloke , lighting the wrong end of your smoke , professing undying love for your Mate , etc.

smithy5 wrote: Speaking from experience aye Billy