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Re: racing and all the associated toys!

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:42 pm
by Glen
Frank wrote:
Blurr wrote:
Frank wrote:Another thing you could do if it hasn't been suggested yet is come down to EC when they have the next motard race practice night, (every six weeks, so the next one should be soon) Have a look at what the fast guys are running and have a talk to a few of them.
or you could take one for a test ride, blow it up and then buy it cheap :kuda: :lol:
Who said anything about cheap, that thing's cost me a small fortune, still I don't think I'll ever spend as much as you have in repair bills, even with a complete engine rebuild! ;)
Meh....when it comes to costly engine repairs you two are small time :oops: :oops: :(

racing and all the associated toys!

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:13 pm
by Wattie
Jonno wrote:Many enduro bikes have the same motor and gear except for lights for reg, take them off and your MX right?
No.

Normally head, cam, carb, flywheel and gears are diff. Oh and exhaust and suspension

Re: racing and all the associated toys!

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:35 pm
by Jonno
ah ok not much then :lol:

Re: racing and all the associated toys!

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:45 pm
by Blurr
yep the KTM450EXC is very sedate compared to the KTM450SX

Same again for the KLX450 comapared to the KX450

and again the WR450 is nothing compared to the YZF450

Pinchy will soon find this out if he tries to race a WR or KLX in the 450 class

Re: racing and all the associated toys!

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:16 pm
by Wattie
pinchy, get an mx'er
and john reddings wheel/brake kit fot 2600 and your set!

at least you will be competitive :kuda:

Re: racing and all the associated toys!

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:37 pm
by Six Addict
Wattie wrote:pinchy, get an mx'er
and john reddings wheel/brake kit fot 2600 and your set!

at least you will be competitive :kuda:
Glenn is doing me a better deal than that. ;) My primary reason for doing this is racing, and an ms bike would better suit that function, yes I can't ride fire trails or the old road, but I want to race.

racing and all the associated toys!

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:39 pm
by Wattie
Glen said for all the gear you get in readings deal he couldn't match it

racing and all the associated toys!

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:41 pm
by potta9
If you want it registered by a wrf and spec it up to the same as the yzf . easy to do just depends on what year you go. I've had three yzf450's over the last couple of years and if maintained you can do a full Mx season 55-60hrs with only minor maintenance (valve clearances, oil and filter). If your deadset on motard aswell yamaha actually make a supermoto kit which is very good I had it on my wrf

Re: racing and all the associated toys!

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:43 pm
by Six Addict
Wheels, bridgey sm tires, Cush drive, tubes, oversize brake disc and bracket, chains and sprockets, sliders for $2200 ish...

Id have to have yz450 to go the factory Yamaha kit, also i think it has to be 09- present... I'll have to do some investigationing

Re: racing and all the associated toys!

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:51 pm
by Blurr
Mate Wattie filled me in today regarding the kit. You need to run Road legal tyres in the FX series, not SM tyres.

Plus the Yamaha kit also comes with better calipers, bigger MC and braided line (you'll need this and they are about $900 alone.

Yamaha will supply this for almost any bike as long as your registered in their series.

Re: racing and all the associated toys!

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:02 pm
by Wattie
Six Addict wrote:Wheels, bridgey sm tires, Cush drive, tubes, oversize brake disc and bracket, chains and sprockets, sliders for $2200 ish...

Id have to have yz450 to go the factory Yamaha kit, also i think it has to be 09- present... I'll have to do some investigationing

Unless you get a KTM, you will never stop the bike without the good brake caliper and and lines.

The KTM's have brembo calipers standard. and then upgraded with abigger disc and relocating bracket they work well. but not in the same ballpark as my Beringer caliper. or franks for that matter (i have 4 piston, franks has 6)
with a yz, wr, klx, kx, rm, cr etc brakes are not the same.

The Redding kit includes the following:
Front wheel: special hub and spokes with 3.5 x 17in rim
Rear wheel: special hub (with cush drive) and spokes with 5.0 x 17in rim
Set Dunlop Alpha 12 production racing tyres with tubes
Supermoto front guard
Crash knob set (fr axle, rear axle and footpegs)
320mm Front brake kit ( 320mm wave disc, Brembo 4 piston caliper,
Brembo racing master cylinder, braided steel front brake line, custom caliper
carrier bracket)
Sprocket set: 15t front, 40 and 45t rear
Handguard set
Fluid Overflow bottle

Kit price (full kit, suits 2010 and 2011 YZ450F models) = $2600 RRP inc GST

Thats a Pretty good deal. and if Redding does as Phil mentioned, will do it for most makes, you are on fire!





now seperate note, KTM 450's 08 onwards have a 4 speed gearbox. which could be quite beneficial once geared up, les you will loos out a little on the start, but you will have nice continious pull out of bends. Single cyl thumpers have great tour and linear power. so something to consider also.

there is 08+ KTM's on ebay for under 5grand at times. with very little mods to do to get running. 8)

but thats enough of my Pro KTM motard rattle. :lol:

Re: racing and all the associated toys!

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:26 pm
by Six Addict
Blurr wrote:Mate Wattie filled me in today regarding the kit. You need to run Road legal tyres in the FX series, not SM tyres.

Plus the Yamaha kit also comes with better calipers, bigger MC and braided line (you'll need this and they are about $900 alone.

Yamaha will supply this for almost any bike as long as your registered in their series.
not true...

they will only supply yamahas, ive had that confirmed in an email after phil told me the same thing you just said ;)

Re: racing and all the associated toys!

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:31 pm
by Phil
Six Addict wrote:Wheels, bridgey sm tires, Cush drive, tubes, oversize brake disc and bracket, chains and sprockets, sliders for $2200 ish...

Id have to have yz450 to go the factory Yamaha kit, also i think it has to be 09- present... I'll have to do some investigationing
I think its worse than that Pinchy, 10-11 models, let me see if I can find the paperwork he gave me in Qld ;)

racing and all the associated toys!

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:31 pm
by Wattie
Six Addict wrote:
Blurr wrote:Mate Wattie filled me in today regarding the kit. You need to run Road legal tyres in the FX series, not SM tyres.

Plus the Yamaha kit also comes with better calipers, bigger MC and braided line (you'll need this and they are about $900 alone.

Yamaha will supply this for almost any bike as long as your registered in their series.
not true...

they will only supply yamahas, ive had that confirmed in an email after phil told me the same thing you just said ;)
Oh bugger. Well scrap that thn. Buy Ktm brKes are better :)

Re: racing and all the associated toys!

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:40 pm
by Blurr
Six Addict wrote:
Blurr wrote:Mate Wattie filled me in today regarding the kit. You need to run Road legal tyres in the FX series, not SM tyres.

Plus the Yamaha kit also comes with better calipers, bigger MC and braided line (you'll need this and they are about $900 alone.

Yamaha will supply this for almost any bike as long as your registered in their series.
not true...

they will only supply yamahas, ive had that confirmed in an email after phil told me the same thing you just said ;)
Ahh well then considering your going to get a Yamaha anyways you'll just need to get a 10-11 model