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That just sucks typical Victorian court outcome. Feel for the poor family to go through 2 years of shite for this to happen.

robracer wrote:Hold on........... was this case held in front of a Jury or just a Judge?

said jury in the newspaper article

I am starting to wonder what the hell the prosecution was presenting to the judge/ jury, must have been a watered down version for her to get just a fine or somehow he forgot half the brief.


But this is nothing new for VicPol to be looking after their own, if it was Joe Truck Driver in the same circumstances on trial it would be 4-6 years on the bottom for vehicular manslaughter and that would be the lighter sentence after all appeals, but ms.cupcake gets away with a fine and probably with her career intact?


The only way to win in a Vic court is to have the best mouth piece you can buy, he (not she) will be expensive because to dine and blow a Judge isnt cheap unless you have dirt on the prosecutor then the game changes again. Or someone baked him cupcakes.


The problem with Victoria is that it's Victorian.


If there is a fighting fund for the victims family to appeal this outragous decision I will be happy to contribute.

Jonno wrote:If there is a fighting fund for the victims family to appeal this outragous decision I will be happy to contribute.

You're not the only one.

robracer wrote:

Jonno wrote:If there is a fighting fund for the victims family to appeal this outragous decision I will be happy to contribute.

You're not the only one.

me too

How do we go about finding out more details and maybe the families solicitor can advise how we can contribute.

I can't think of a better cause.

I withdraw the 'incompetent' comment. I admit to being angry and emotional. Would it have been a police prosecutor? (Genuine question - don't know how these things work).

DaveGPz wrote:Would it have been a police prosecutor? (Genuine question - don't know how these things work).

Over here it would be have been a prosecutor from the Director of Public Prosecutions - an independent prosecution service. I can't comment for Victoria.

Money won't make a difference, it is up to the Office of Public Prosecutions/ DPP as to whether they wish to challenge the decision in a higher court, which would come down to how the prosecution presented the case, what instruction the judge gave the jury along with any evidence that was not allowed or was ignored.

You would need to get a hold of the court notes and seek legal advice, (which the family maybe doing). But ultimately it comes down to the OPP/ DPP so I would suggest start writing to them, if there is enough public interest than they may review the case, no one likes negative publicicty.

However before doing such things I would be trying to discuss any such matter with the family first instead of acting on their behalf.

there's stuff on the MRA website

http://www.mravic.org.au/forum/modules/ ... oryid=2130

so maybe Mick can find out what the family wants to do

FFF...It's hard not to be angry when reading that his bike "was in an "over maintained" order (new tyres)".

This should be an indication of his approach to safety rather than a contributing factor in the crash.

"overmaintained" there is no such thing... thats done it for me... truly a joke...

DaveGPz wrote: Would it have been a police prosecutor? (Genuine question - don't know how these things work).

Usually it is in the Magistrates but not always in the county court, I am not sure when the DPP takes over.

aardvark wrote:

DaveGPz wrote:Would it have been a police prosecutor? (Genuine question - don't know how these things work).

Over here it would be have been a prosecutor from the Director of Public Prosecutions - an independent prosecution service. I can't comment for Victoria.

Thanks. I do apologise for offending you, but it's a combination of previous experience and a lot of anger over this particular case. I must say my experiences with the SA police when I lived in Adelaide for 12 years were far more positive than my experiences with the Vics.

DaveGPz wrote:Thanks. I do apologise for offending you, but it's a combination of previous experience and a lot of anger over this particular case.

No worries, I wasn't offended. It just irks me when people make ill thought comment, and complain of police corruption, when the result would likely have been the same for any other member of the public with a good lawyer.