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Re: OS helmets
Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 4:35 pm
by Jonno
Because we test differently, ie spike test (we apparently have a lot of spikes in oz).
Some pass some others thicken the shell, I dont really care as long as they pass.
Whatever, this has been discussed before as you well know in the links above, I suggest you take it up with the standards office.

Re: OS helmets
Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 4:41 pm
by zxsixr03
LOl all good, i'm not fussed about, each to there own, I know it protects my head same as your AS standard one...
Re: OS helmets
Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 8:32 pm
by kawadave
Re: OS helmets
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 8:59 am
by Takamii
Blurr wrote:Let me pretext this question before statrting an all out war.
I am not intending on buying a helmet OS to use on the roads, just curious.
So with that said the extremely strong aussie dollar had me trowling some bike accressory sites ( well until my credit card jumped out of my wallet and ran out of the room screaming 'make the bad man stop' like a little girl

) and I noticed how much we get reamed for helmets over here.
Anyways with the change inlaws recently regarding to the AUS/NZ 1628 stickers I was wondering what the OS helmets have (either US or Europe).
Can anyone shed some light?
I am curious about this -- what law change is that ? I have heard of nothing.
Could you please expand on this
Re: OS helmets
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 9:01 am
by Takamii
Jonno wrote:Because we test differently, ie spike test (we apparently have a lot of spikes in oz).
Some pass some others thicken the shell, I dont really care as long as they pass.
Whatever, this has been discussed before as you well know in the links above, I suggest you take it up with the standards office.

Absolutely correct - I know of one leading brand that needed to do this to some of their european models to pass AS1698 - hence why I say the overseas models are not always the same as the ones we have here
Re: OS helmets
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 11:11 am
by Blurr
Last year the law widen allowing other testing/certifying bodies to supply the AS1698.
SAI global is not the sole supplier anymore.
you also have TUV Global and a few others now.
Aardy posted it the exact companies and stickers up in my other thread somewhere
Re: OS helmets
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 8:55 pm
by Takamii
Ah yes I am aware of this Blurr as I use TUV
thank you for the clarification
I can advise that the opening of certification to other companies drove down the cost of certification greatly -- had TUV not been in the market place I could not afford the cost of certification
TUV and BSI for example drove the price down by double figure percentages --- in fact I will not say how much but SAI globals cost was absolutely slashed by TUV
Let me explain how much of a rort SAI global was running and why I dislike them - it may give you an insight as to why helmets cost more here as well
to certify helmets the factory where they are produced in must also be inspected yearly and certified - for quality control etc ( part of or standards requirement )
when I originally approached SAI they said to me I have to pay ( yearly ) for one of their people in Australia to fly business class and stay for 5 days in a 5 star hotel to do the certification of the factory overseas --- remember SAI Global says they have offices all over the world in most countries -- keep this in mind
I rang TUV - they said to me -- we get our local office in that country the factory is in to inspect the factory and do the report for us after they have been there and checked relevant things -- it should only take a day to do the inspection and depending on where the office is all you pay for is their basic travel cost ( if a flight - economy or economy train ticket etc etc )
so yes competition is "keeping the bastards honest " - RIP Donn Chip
Re: OS helmets
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:18 pm
by redzedx7r
Makes you wonder, I can't wear my Suomy Vandal which has US DoT and British DoT standards sticker for a trackday at Qld Raceway but some $59 Chinese made p.o.s Nitro brand with an AS1628 is OK ?????

Re: OS helmets
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:11 pm
by Naked Twin
Why can't you wear it for track day? I thought for racing (at least) that you could use whatever helmet you wanted.
Re: OS helmets
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 8:26 pm
by zxsixr03
Not QLD raceway and some of the privately run TD's
Re: OS helmets
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:42 am
by Naked Twin
At EC and PI they don't check the lid, the last time at Wakefield they didn't, thus the question, now I know when I go to QLD with a new helmet I will have to take a spare.
I had heard there was an issue at the drags but commonsense prevailed and they allow non AS/NZ approved.
I bet if Rossi or Stoner showed up they would say no worries
Re: OS helmets
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:38 pm
by zxsixr03
Oran park used to check your lid but DOT and SNELL Were ok... Ec will soon i bet.