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Naked Twin wrote:I will say this what you do in your own space is your business as long as it does interfere with those around, thus doing a burnout on private land I will support (a bit like having a party) but as I have said before - time and place.

Nick

I agree to a point. Private land as in your own paddock knock yourself out. The average front yard is less than 20 metres wide and about 5 metres long. Apart from the noise and smell you are very close to your neighbours property. It would not take much to go wrong and you would be on their land. Also how would you feel if that happened next door to you all the time. Imagine trying to sell your house and when potentail buyers are there the guy next door starts doing burn outs you would have lost a sale. If it was a regular occurrence you would quickly get pissed off with your neighbour.

seiko1 wrote:Just see how you like when you have to actually live with these stupid laws yourself
If I'm sitting in my own driveway and do a burnout....bye bye car.
It's f'ing ridiculous

i'd bet you'd go feral if your neighbour was doing it though. I actually think i remember you complaining to me about the hoons in your street.

dutch80au wrote:

seiko1 wrote:Just see how you like when you have to actually live with these stupid laws yourself
If I'm sitting in my own driveway and do a burnout....bye bye car.
It's f'ing ridiculous

i'd bet you'd go feral if your neighbour was doing it though. I actually think i remember you complaining to me about the hoons in your street.

I was brought up in the country
The nearest neighbour was 5 klm's away, if I did a burnout in my driveway there as I always
did on the way to get a new rear....I would lose my bike.
Think outside the suburban arena MF's
If you think it would be ok to have my bike or car seized in a situation like that....
Then God help us all

(I don't agree with driving eratically in the closed suburbs by the way)

ZXR750 wrote:

Naked Twin wrote:I will say this what you do in your own space is your business as long as it does interfere with those around, thus doing a burnout on private land I will support (a bit like having a party) but as I have said before - time and place.

Nick

I agree to a point. Private land as in your own paddock knock yourself out. The average front yard is less than 20 metres wide and about 5 metres long. Apart from the noise and smell you are very close to your neighbours property. It would not take much to go wrong and you would be on their land. Also how would you feel if that happened next door to you all the time. Imagine trying to sell your house and when potentail buyers are there the guy next door starts doing burn outs you would have lost a sale. If it was a regular occurrence you would quickly get pissed off with your neighbour.

Agree completely and why I said "as long as it does not interefere with those around"

Time and place, I believe Seiko had the time and place but this is taken away as such I disagree with the law (if it is true, as I was told on private land you can pretty much do what you want).

Nick

Can't drink and drive your paddock bomb even if you have a million acres
Can't do a burnout even in a closed garage
Take your ID and scan your eyeball at some clubs
Can't smoke in the Pub
Can't drink on the Beach
Can't walk your Dog on the Beach
Can't even take pic's of your kid's on the beach or at the pool
Can't smoke in the car with an under 18 passenger
Can't have a slugun
Can't let off crackers
Can't, Can't, Can't (with a "u")
Victoria...The Place to be....NOT!
If we weren't all finacially trapped because we live the highest taxed state in the highest taxed country,
this place would be empty

Mark Webber just said what thousands of Victorians already believe.

80% support in the Hun for his statement about the Nanny state. 80%.....that's a lot of Vic's eh ??

Think you are safe on private land ? Think again. Hundreds of cases where land-owners have been fined for allowing kids to ride small quad-bikes on private property - think you are safe on your own 10 acres of private land holdings ?? Not if the neighbour whinges hard enough.

It is a nanny state. And the reality of kids fighting back against unenforceable laws, is seen every Fri/Sat night in the city, where violent stabbings have increased by 250% in the last 10 years.

Zero Tolerance of law-breaking = Zero Acceptance of law-makers. They could take a leaf out of the Italian polizia books - who regularly allow speeding of 10-20kmh over the limit, but do come down on those who push it by 30 0r 40kmh over - because they are the ones who could cause a problem.....not the guy doing 3kmh over the limit !! Its just bullshit, and anyone who thinks that fining drivers a shitload of money for driving 3kmh over the limit is kidding themselves. Sliding off the road and hitting a tree at 100kmh is no safer than sliding off the road and hitting that same tree at 104kmh !!!!

The harder that the law-makers come down on the public, the harder the public will push back by ignoring the laws being enforced. Want proof ? Road deaths in Victoria this year are already higher than last year.......

If speed cameras saved lives, then road-deaths should be a thing of the past.

I could go on and on......one day the clowns that run the circus will learn to spell the word t-o-l-e-r-a-n-c-e.

Onya Gos..I couldn't have put it better because I can't write for shit.
They've taken the "over Policing" and Over Governing" approach that has eventually
and innevitably led to riots and civil disobedience, mainly from the young, in many countries (including China )
You can't stiffle millions of years of instinctive "risk taking" behaviour in males especially and
expect to get away with it.
The road toll and violence will continue to increase as a result, they will respond with totalitarian rules and so
the spiral downward will continue until the innevitable END
I have had two fines in two weeks and I can definately say, I have thought of nothing since, but how to destroy speed cameras
and get away with it (lots on youtube by the way)

Gosling1 wrote:If speed cameras saved lives, then road-deaths should be a thing of the past. I could go on and on......one day the clowns that run the circus will learn to spell the word t-o-l-e-r-a-n-c-e.

seiko1 wrote:Onya Gos..I couldn't have put it better because I can't write for shit. They've taken the "over Policing" and Over Governing" approach that has eventually and innevitably led to riots and civil disobedience

Joe Public can see through this crap propergated by "do gooders" as revenue raising under the guise of safety and eventually something will have to give. but in the meantime, NSW will re-join the bandwagon from June when they re-introduce mobile speed cameras "to stop speeders and reduce the road deaths".

I saw a Professor (so called expert) on channel 7 the other day stating that his studies showed that speed cameras should be hidden as it was the only way to stop the increasing road toll. How getting a fine 2 weeks after the event is going to save lives begs belief........ They then had a Phycologist (another so called expert) on and she stated that a visual police pressence is the way to reduce the road toll....... Even the so called experts can't agree.. They need to get out from behind their office desk of knowledge and get onto the roads with the rest of society... They probably use public transport to get about

I don't think there is any argument whatsoever, that a visible police presence does a lot more to tone down driver behaviour, than sneaky speed camera's sitting inside garbage bins !!

VicPol are going to have one of their greatest weekends ever shortly, in terms of visible police presence on the roads. I really do hope that it has an effect on the road toll - because it will be proof positive that a visible police presence *actually works* - and the public have a far greater acceptance and tolerance themselves, when it comes to obeying speed if they can see a marked car.

I think I'll take my plate off and go for a nice "quick" ride today

HMMMMM...plate off.......... 09:08 am..........april what?? see ya out there seiko
....I'll join you unplated, to see if the police are actually visible

craig wrote:HMMMMM...plate off.......... 09:08 am..........april what?? see ya out there seiko
....I'll join you unplated, to see if the police are actually visible

Lets go mate....I got the day off.
GOR b4 the bloody tourists inundate it

It is april fools day isn't it..........'BEFORE THE TOURIST GET THERE"........

Still haven't gone for a ride yet...
decided to fit this a little more than a ten min job though