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Posted: **Mon Aug 07, 2006 8:27 pm**

Yur nuts Neka dont worry

No matter what yur new bike is it is just about imparitive to gear the sucker down.
One up on the front is the go at least.
Drive/thrust is improved out of sight.....

Before you go for a larger bike gear down yur 6 (whatever)

Think of the extreme of 80 tooth rear stunt bikes that climb the chain.

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2006 8:55 am**

Strika wrote:If you think about it, there is almost as much difference in power between a 6 a 9, as there is between a 9 and a 10 or any of the other litre sports bikes!!!

6's are around 100, add 25 for a 9 and another 20 for a ten!

125.......i dont think so tim

131 on the 107K old clutch, imagine if i put the new one thats sitting in the garage in.

only problem is where the power is on the new litre bikes (except the zook), by the time you get to it your already motoring. this may be ok in the NT, but in a land of ever decreasing speed limits its not much fun.

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:57 am**

Well Strika I am up for a race-bike swapsie anytime you want man, I really want to see how much slower I am than you on your beast anyway, plus it would be good to ride it to see just how much my setup is lacking.

And yes they do wheelie like crazy, which sucks for me coz I can't do em and I get all scared like a girlie when the thing lifts the front, particularly during a race start, where it is still trying to chuck me off the back in 3rd gear.....

But they are the most funnest thing around! Mine makes 140-150 at the tyre, and has heaps of midrange as well. Fun Fun FUN!

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:36 am**

Phil wrote:having ridden all of the 06 jap litre bikes as well as the MV F4 1000, all i can say is strika is spot on.

i also had the opportunity to "ride them as the manufacturer intended" wow they are really just too much - i'm one who does not poses the self control to own one. like i said to the big guy after riding his new 12 "great bike - glad its not mine"

in saying that all the ones i rode were geared stock, i got back on the 9 and the zook was the only one that felt like it had more than my 9 up to about 6 - 6.5K. after that - no contest.

over 7-8 grand in any gear they are awesome

i really liked them all , cept the honda. we just didnt get along.

problem is, they make going stupidly fast sooooo easy. its all gonna end in disaster when mr hwy patrol sees you. i can get myself into waaaaaay too much trouble in second gear

Dropping a tooth on the front definitely makes a big difference in general rideability...the 10 just motors whatever speed you are going now. Definitely better than the 06 10 I rode straight after hopping off mine, which took a little while to wind up in comparison.

...and I've been meaning to ask what the deal was with the Honda and the trailer?

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:52 am**

Mick C wrote:
Phil wrote:having ridden all of the 06 jap litre bikes as well as the MV F4 1000, all i can say is strika is spot on.

i also had the opportunity to "ride them as the manufacturer intended" wow they are really just too much - i'm one who does not poses the self control to own one. like i said to the big guy after riding his new 12 "great bike - glad its not mine"

in saying that all the ones i rode were geared stock, i got back on the 9 and the zook was the only one that felt like it had more than my 9 up to about 6 - 6.5K. after that - no contest.

over 7-8 grand in any gear they are awesome

i really liked them all , cept the honda. we just didnt get along.

problem is, they make going stupidly fast sooooo easy. its all gonna end in disaster when mr hwy patrol sees you. i can get myself into waaaaaay too much trouble in second gear
Dropping a tooth on the front definitely makes a big difference in general rideability...the 10 just motors whatever speed you are going now. Definitely better than the 06 10 I rode straight after hopping off mine, which took a little while to wind up in comparison.

...and I've been meaning to ask what the deal was with the Honda and the trailer?

broken clip on.......bloody honda.

BTW that was why i mentioned they were all stock. Then again my 9 is stock too

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:59 am**

Ahhh I see...bloody honda's

When I bought the old 9 it had a 15 on the front, which I later changed to a stock 16 which was much nicer...so I agree, stock is good on the 9

....it's just a 16 is nice on a 10 too

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2006 2:48 pm**

Strika wrote:Some silly things this bike did........... Exiting a sweeping right in 4th gear at XXX KPH and have the rear spin up (surprisingly controllable)

Cresting a rise, any rise, in almost any gear, at almost any speed required judicial throttle usage to avoid the front pawing skyward...

Guess that means Dave doesn't own a current-shape R1, but one of the earlier ones...

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2006 2:54 pm**

I-K wrote:
Strika wrote:Some silly things this bike did........... Exiting a sweeping right in 4th gear at XXX KPH and have the rear spin up (surprisingly controllable)

Cresting a rise, any rise, in almost any gear, at almost any speed required judicial throttle usage to avoid the front pawing skyward...
Guess that means Dave doesn't own a current-shape R1, but one of the earlier ones...

nope, its the current "shape" but i understand the 06 are a littler easier to control than the 04-05

then again 1 tooth down on the front would tend to induce behaviour as strika has said.

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2006 2:55 pm**

I-K wrote:
Strika wrote:Some silly things this bike did........... Exiting a sweeping right in 4th gear at XXX KPH and have the rear spin up (surprisingly controllable)

Cresting a rise, any rise, in almost any gear, at almost any speed required judicial throttle usage to avoid the front pawing skyward...
Guess that means Dave doesn't own a current-shape R1, but one of the earlier ones...

You guessed wrong!

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2006 5:10 pm**

Strika wrote:
I-K wrote:
Strika wrote:Some silly things this bike did........... Exiting a sweeping right in 4th gear at XXX KPH and have the rear spin up (surprisingly controllable)

Cresting a rise, any rise, in almost any gear, at almost any speed required judicial throttle usage to avoid the front pawing skyward...
Guess that means Dave doesn't own a current-shape R1, but one of the earlier ones...
You guessed wrong!

Then I have to wonder how much engine work's been done to this thing to make it seem that impressive. I've test-ridden a stock 04 R1 and I have to say that the last time I rode a bike whose engine was so overwhelmed by its chassis, it was a mate's ZXR250. I ended up spending the straight sections in first gear, whacking the throttle to the stop at various revs, trying in vain to find a spot in the rev range where the bike would snap my head back my old 2000-model R1 used to; all it would do is wind out the tacho... eventually.

The chassis on it is wicked, the brakes on it are wicked, it looks wicked, but that motor belongs in a 600. The '98 FireBlade has more menace to it.

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2006 6:13 pm**

I-K wrote:
Strika wrote:
I-K wrote: Guess that means Dave doesn't own a current-shape R1, but one of the earlier ones...
You guessed wrong!
Then I have to wonder how much engine work's been done to this thing to make it seem that impressive. I've test-ridden a stock 04 R1 and I have to say that the last time I rode a bike whose engine was so overwhelmed by its chassis, it was a mate's ZXR250. I ended up spending the straight sections in first gear, whacking the throttle to the stop at various revs, trying in vain to find a spot in the rev range where the bike would snap my head back my old 2000-model R1 used to; all it would do is wind out the tacho... eventually.

The chassis on it is wicked, the brakes on it are wicked, it looks wicked, but that motor belongs in a 600. The '98 FireBlade has more menace to it.

I know it's probably mentioned too far back, but the bike isn't stock. I mentioned prior to this, that it had a few minor mods, such as Micron cans and mid section, PC, Mapped, Gearing! So it was bound to pull harder than a geared to the moon stocker with standard pipes. But I still see no issues with the motor. It has loads of power everywhere, and is smooth as silk. Did several roll ons with the guys on ZX10's on Sunday and there was never much in it! But I can understand you thinking it lacks bottom end when you rode a bike that will pull 160kph in first gear. they are saying similiar things about the new ten for the same reasons. But hey, my comments about the power are all relative to my experience, and better riders like yourself may find them to lack bottom end, but to my uneducated head it fealt great!

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:22 pm**

I-K wrote:. The '98 FireBlade has more menace to it.

woo hoo the blade gets a mention..anda good one!!

i just think R1's are poo....regardless....

Posted: **Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:10 am**

Phil wrote:only problem is where the power is on the new litre bikes (except the zook), by the time you get to it your already motoring. this may be ok in the NT, but in a land of ever decreasing speed limits its not much fun.

sounds like you like the zook.... a sign of things to come perhaps?

i could see myself hopping on one in the future... if only kawa gave the 9R a few more CC's and EFI

Posted: **Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:00 am**

SocialSecurity wrote:
Phil wrote:only problem is where the power is on the new litre bikes (except the zook), by the time you get to it your already motoring. this may be ok in the NT, but in a land of ever decreasing speed limits its not much fun.
sounds like you like the zook.... a sign of things to come perhaps?

i could see myself hopping on one in the future... if only kawa gave the 9R a few more CC's and EFI

They did...it's called a 10

Posted: **Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:01 am**

Mick C wrote:
SocialSecurity wrote:
Phil wrote:only problem is where the power is on the new litre bikes (except the zook), by the time you get to it your already motoring. this may be ok in the NT, but in a land of ever decreasing speed limits its not much fun.
sounds like you like the zook.... a sign of things to come perhaps?

i could see myself hopping on one in the future... if only kawa gave the 9R a few more CC's and EFI
They did...it's called a 10

LOL i was going to say the SAME thing!

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