Kawasaki Sportsbike Riders Club - Australia - Online Forum

photomike666 wrote:OK, I'm bored so I'm gonna wade in deep here.

1. Neka will ride circles round you on 1 wheel and a finger up his bum.

2. The ZX10R is a bike designed to compete in WORLD SUPERBIKES. It is not aimed at spitting rideres off, nor to out gun a ZX12 on a drag strip. It handles like a 600, because it has a similar chassis. Just 40% more power up top!

3. Kawasaki, realising fuckwit newbies with no experience, and far more money than sense will buy one. SO they turned the wick down in a number of ways...
a). It runs a 17 tooth front sprocket where the gearing & power would suit a 16 tooth. Hence it doesn't lift so easy in first.
b), The mapping is weak in 1st, 2nd & 3rd. This dampens the spirit of the bike in those gears, and helps keep the bike with in the legal noise requirements.
3). The throttle throw is quite long, making it hard to get to wide open throttle quickly.

The exhaust actually boosts the mid range slightly, and a full race system will compromise the mid range for more peak power. This is not advisible if you are only going to ride on the road as you will use the mid range more.

The problem more newbies will get into on this bike is exiting a corner. As you get confident and harder on the power on exit, it is easy to push the rear into a slide. Just compare the number of high sides in a 1000cc race and a 600cc race and you will see where the extra power kicks in. EDIT* This may null and void to a newbie who thinks "OK I won't rev it through corners". But unfortunately when you corner on zero throttle the bike tends to run wide, you need to apex with revs to make the bike turn right, and now it's nearer to getting the back loose.

But by all means go ahead and buy one, ride around at 4000rpm getting over taken by people on Vespas - you'll still be cool for a while. Oh, and don't mind if we start a sweep stake on how long it is until you stack it, and in what manner

Strika wrote:I hope you enjoy it to bits.

wisc wrote:went for a test ride on the ten over the weekend and i'm pretty sure i can safly say that there is nothing to fear on this bike.

even when i snapped it open in first it was pretty tame. if i hadn't known any better i would have said it was a six.... all the way up to about 8k, then it started taking off, the front wheel slowly lifting, if i had done the same thing on my nine, i would have been flat on my back.(hence the six comment) the almost 10 year older nine, seems to pack alot more of a punch in the middle i can't really use all the throttle in first, that wasn't a real problem on the ten.

dont get me wrong the 10 has to be respected... above 8-10k RPM. I think so many others have said that comment too, its a choice to ride in those rev ranges not a requirement.

having seen kristy sit on the bike id say its a good size for her and if she can control her wrist i don't see why it wouldnt be a good buy for her, once she gets used to the power she can take the revs above 8-9k

as always its always about wrist control. if your a sensible rider its fine.

apparantly if you change the pipe it really opens it up the mid range as they are massivly restricted, again this is another upgrade option in a few years time. meaning that she can pretty much keep the bike forever without having to worry about upgrading later down the track. (as some do on the 6s)

i was thinking about the 10 as a newer upgrade but after taking it for a spin the 12s starting to look a bit better, lets face it on the roads most of the power you want (and can use) is going to be 0-100 the 10s power band seems to be above that.

realistly you can get yourself in trouble on any bike, its all about speed, regardless if its a 10 or a 6. This bike will just get you there a second or so quicker.

edit: just going though some of the older posts in this thread, one of my points that probably doesnt come out as much is that i think it would be just as dangerous jumping on a six hundred if there were no experience involved. i dont think the difference in the six and the 10 is going to make a huge amount of difference (if you can control yourself)as they are both powerful bikes both capible of high speeds, as long as she doesn't try to keep up with ross she should be fine.

Neka79 wrote:

wisc wrote:went for a test ride on the ten over the weekend and i'm pretty sure i can safly say that there is nothing to fear on this bike.

thats sum funny shit....

Stretchy wrote:

wisc wrote:went for a test ride on the ten over the weekend and i'm pretty sure i can safly say that there is nothing to fear on this bike.

even when i snapped it open in first it was pretty tame. if i hadn't known any better i would have said it was a six.... all the way up to about 8k, then it started taking off, the front wheel slowly lifting, if i had done the same thing on my nine, i would have been flat on my back.(hence the six comment) the almost 10 year older nine, seems to pack alot more of a punch in the middle i can't really use all the throttle in first, that wasn't a real problem on the ten.

dont get me wrong the 10 has to be respected... above 8-10k RPM. I think so many others have said that comment too, its a choice to ride in those rev ranges not a requirement.

having seen kristy sit on the bike id say its a good size for her and if she can control her wrist i don't see why it wouldnt be a good buy for her, once she gets used to the power she can take the revs above 8-9k

as always its always about wrist control. if your a sensible rider its fine.

apparantly if you change the pipe it really opens it up the mid range as they are massivly restricted, again this is another upgrade option in a few years time. meaning that she can pretty much keep the bike forever without having to worry about upgrading later down the track. (as some do on the 6s)

i was thinking about the 10 as a newer upgrade but after taking it for a spin the 12s starting to look a bit better, lets face it on the roads most of the power you want (and can use) is going to be 0-100 the 10s power band seems to be above that.

realistly you can get yourself in trouble on any bike, its all about speed, regardless if its a 10 or a 6. This bike will just get you there a second or so quicker.

edit: just going though some of the older posts in this thread, one of my points that probably doesnt come out as much is that i think it would be just as dangerous jumping on a six hundred if there were no experience involved. i dont think the difference in the six and the 10 is going to make a huge amount of difference (if you can control yourself)as they are both powerful bikes both capible of high speeds, as long as she doesn't try to keep up with ross she should be fine.

If you rode a ten and you couldnt get the wheel up till over 8 grand your throtle hand needs a workout. Learn how to open the throtle HARD and FAST and then you will see how a ten really is. And having ridden a ten and a nine, if you think a nine even compares your on drugs.

ross79 wrote: I didn't believe how gutless the 10 is down low. Even Wisc refused to believe me till he took one for a spin. I tried snapping the throttle open just before 8grand and there was no hope in hell of getting the front to come up.
Maybe you're a scrawny guy which would make it easier for you to get it to wheelie?

Stretchy wrote:

wisc wrote:went for a test ride on the ten over the weekend and i'm pretty sure i can safly say that there is nothing to fear on this bike.

even when i snapped it open in first it was pretty tame. if i hadn't known any better i would have said it was a six.... all the way up to about 8k, then it started taking off, the front wheel slowly lifting, if i had done the same thing on my nine, i would have been flat on my back.(hence the six comment) the almost 10 year older nine, seems to pack alot more of a punch in the middle i can't really use all the throttle in first, that wasn't a real problem on the ten.

dont get me wrong the 10 has to be respected... above 8-10k RPM. I think so many others have said that comment too, its a choice to ride in those rev ranges not a requirement.

as always its always about wrist control. if your a sensible rider its fine.

edit: just going though some of the older posts in this thread, one of my points that probably doesnt come out as much is that i think it would be just as dangerous jumping on a six hundred if there were no experience involved. i dont think the difference in the six and the 10 is going to make a huge amount of difference (if you can control yourself)as they are both powerful bikes both capible of high speeds, as long as she doesn't try to keep up with ross she should be fine.

If you rode a ten and you couldnt get the wheel up till over 8 grand your throtle hand needs a workout. Learn how to open the throtle HARD and FAST and then you will see how a ten really is. And having ridden a ten and a nine, if you think a nine even compares your on drugs.

Mick C wrote:Two things need to be clarified with all these posts about the 10's power or supposed lack thereof.

Firstly, state which model are you talking about, the 04/05 or 06/07.
The later models power delivery down low is much smoother than the earlier models, a deliberate attempt by the big K to tame the 10's love of lifting the front. Some may perceive this as being gutless...your senses are being deceived and arse dyno's are wildy innaccurate.

Secondly, state whether the gearing is stock or if it's been dropped -1 at the front.
Stock gearing is deliberately high on both models to stop numpties putting themselves in the weeds when they get on one straight from their 250 learner bike cos they've convinced themselves it's a good idea. Dropping 1 tooth on the front transforms them into the bike you are expecting from all the hype and they are still capable of a genuine 270+ with a bag on the back.

Mick C wrote:Two things need to be clarified with all these posts about the 10's power or supposed lack thereof.

Firstly, state which model are you talking about, the 04/05 or 06/07.
The later models power delivery down low is much smoother than the earlier models, a deliberate attempt by the big K to tame the 10's love of lifting the front. Some may perceive this as being gutless...your senses are being deceived and arse dyno's are wildy innaccurate.

Secondly, state whether the gearing is stock or if it's been dropped -1 at the front.
Stock gearing is deliberately high on both models to stop numpties putting themselves in the weeds when they get on one straight from their 250 learner bike cos they've convinced themselves it's a good idea. Dropping 1 tooth on the front transforms them into the bike you are expecting from all the hype and they are still capable of a genuine 270+ with a bag on the back.