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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 12:33 pm
by Glen
I've got one of the rubber strap things which have a handle designed to self tighten as you put pressure on it. Got it from a Repco store (can't remember how much though). It works a treat but it depends on which way your filter points in relation to the headers and whether you can get access.
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 12:43 pm
by robracer
Ratmick wrote:Kawasaki Australia will quite happily sell you a cap-type socket for about $15 that sits on top of the little dimples that go around the top of your filter. The socket is 1/2" drive. They work better than the screwdriver method, which is too damn messy, and you're screwed if the filter if too tight and it just tears (then you're pretty well stuffed, as nothing else is going to work).
Interestingly Honda give these sockets away with a new filter...
...I also have one of the webbing strap+1/2" drive types.
Yep use these all the time & have a few sizes in the tool box

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 3:03 pm
by mick_dundee
On ZZR600 filter placement is tighter than the proverbial fishes arsehole... screwdriver has always doe the job thus far.
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 3:18 pm
by Duane
mick_dundee wrote:On ZZR600 filter placement is tighter than the proverbial fishes arsehole... screwdriver has always doe the job thus far.
What concerns me is that you know how tight a fishes arsehole is to judge how tight your oil filter is, however, being the sick sick man I am, I have to agree some oil filters are tight
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:55 pm
by mrmina
Mark wrote:A hammer and a screwdriver, punch the screwdriver though the filter works every time.
i thought i was the only one that did that

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:54 pm
by Strika
I have a socket drive filter tool in the tool box,but rarely use it. Usually i can turn them off by hand provided some neanderthal hasn't fitted it. Hand tight HP, ok!

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 8:35 pm
by ozx6r
bought 1 from super cheap for $10 or $12 i think
is same principal as the one below turn the end to tighten strap
didnt come with sockets for sump plug
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 8:35 pm
by Paddo
I just did an oil change on my Zed, the filter supplied to me was a K&N, it has a 17 mm nut welded on top of it. It will make the next change easier (and cleaner) than the last, as I too resorted to the screwdriver trick to remove the old filter.
Paddo
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 8:37 pm
by ozx6r
how much did they sting ya for a k&n filter?
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 9:09 pm
by Ratmick
robracer wrote:Yep use these all the time & have a few sizes in the tool box

The one on the left is the one I have hanging on my toolrack, the one of the right looks pretty heavy duty

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Mick_Dundee> No problem at all usign one on the ZZR, if you don't mind lying on the floor

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MadKaw wrote:Yes, I've been known to do that, although try not to puncture the oil filter because if its on too tight you will just tear the casing.
That happened to me on the ZZR before I bought the filter socket. Once the filter is in half you are screwed

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MadKaw wrote:Try to hit the srewdriver onto the base to loosen it, you may need to make a few indentations before it will turn..
Umm, yes I found that out the hard way

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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 9:34 pm
by Neka79
mrmina wrote:Mark wrote:A hammer and a screwdriver, punch the screwdriver though the filter works every time.
i thought i was the only one that did that

no..ur just the only one who puts it back on that way...
i use the strap type, and its useable on all filters....not hard, if ur a lil clever...
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:31 pm
by mitch179
i just use my hand ... shouldnt be on that tight to need a tool, u dont need to tighten the shit out of it , it has an oring so just nip it up and let it be, i spose they might get sticky if u leave them on for ages ??
i do my oil + filter every 2500 k's so probly doesnt really get time to get stuck on too hard lol
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:49 pm
by Paddo
The retail was about 100 bucks for 4 litres of fully synthetic silkolene and the filter, I think the oil was about $85, so about 15 bucks for the K&N.
I bought a whole lot of other stuff at the same time, the guy at the shop looks after me so I paid a little less than the above.
Paddo
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 4:34 pm
by mrmina
i think the hammer and screwdriver were my last resorts.
I normally give it a crack by hand and if not successful, use an old bit of cloth and twist it around the filter (just like the strap tool), make sure its tight and then rotate. It actually works
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 4:42 pm
by Duane
mrmina wrote:I normally give it a crack by hand and if not successful, use an old bit of cloth and twist it around the shaft (just like the leather strap tool), make sure its tight and then rotate. It actually works