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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:18 am
by Barrabob
heres a picture of phills backprotecter whilst not the pretiest thing i ever saw they do have a great peice of foam that runs the whole length of your vertibre and are designed to be worn under leathers.
Some of the other ones i have seen have a great looking bit of plastic on the back of them but no foam so i cant see how that is going to cushion anything if you come of and get slamed into a gutter,post,tree or find yourself rolling around in a spoon drain.
He also has great armour for the rest of your leathers made out of the same stuff i say go the hip armour if you have room to fit it.

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:38 am
by MadKaw
mfzx6r wrote:Try the Expo at the supers Dave got a good one cheap there
and there were none left when I went back

Yep, that was a great buy.. $30 for a Collins back protector..
That was about 3 years ago.....
and guess what, its still ok... and it works...

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:09 am
by mrmina
Rjays make a good one.
thin as.
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:21 am
by varden
Barrabob wrote:He also has great armour for the rest of your leathers made out of the same stuff i say go the hip armour if you have room to fit it
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His knee armour is good too!! Full knee cap shroud and down the shin to your boot line. $45 to supply and fit.
Shows how inadequate the stock armour that comes with brand name leathers is.
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 3:37 pm
by Stereo
Barrabob wrote:Some of the other ones i have seen have a great looking bit of plastic on the back of them but no foam so i cant see how that is going to cushion anything if you come of and get slamed into a gutter.
A back protector is not there to protect you from bruising... it is there to stop your back bending the wrong way.........
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:18 pm
by Stace
Stereo wrote:Barrabob wrote:Some of the other ones i have seen have a great looking bit of plastic on the back of them but no foam so i cant see how that is going to cushion anything if you come of and get slamed into a gutter.
A back protector is not there to protect you from bruising... it is there to stop your back bending the wrong way.........
exactly, rather be bruised from head to toe than in a wheel chair. To many mates in them now.
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 12:01 am
by 7THSIN
Stereo wrote:Barrabob wrote:Some of the other ones i have seen have a great looking bit of plastic on the back of them but no foam so i cant see how that is going to cushion anything if you come of and get slamed into a gutter.
A back protector is not there to protect you from bruising... it is there to stop your back bending the wrong way.........
I think you'll find you've been slightly misinformed.
Yes, back protectors are designed to flex in only one direction, but I challenge you to find me a back protector that I cant bend 'the wrong way' by using my hands.
They do help
prevent hyperextension of the spine, but the main purpose is to cushion impacts and spread them over a larger area. Reducing bruising and damage to your back, ribs and internal organs.
If you hit something with enough force to break your spine, some plastic plates and/or foam wont be strong enough to keep your back together.
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 12:38 am
by varden
7THSIN wrote:If you hit something with enough force to break your spine, some plastic plates and/or foam wont be strong enough to keep your back together.
good point!
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 1:01 am
by Barrabob
Dunno, didnt want to start a argument, the ones I have seen coming out of A grade racers kits are made of hard plasic and dont seem to have a lot of padding in them just a pit of webbing to keep them in place.
The guy that makes these ones puts the racers leathers back together between races out of his van and in his own words says he sees the afternmath of a good many crashes and his stuff has been tested to 240kph at the track and it works just fine.
I had a look at some of the cheapies at the bike shops for like 120bucks if you could call them cheap and i reckon i could snap them backwards in a second.
the salesman tells me that they are for kids doing motocros where they are mandantory but theres no real standards as to what they should do.
Those dianese ones and knox ones have some padding in them too.
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 8:37 pm
by I-K
7THSIN wrote:Stereo wrote:A back protector is not there to protect you from bruising... it is there to stop your back bending the wrong way.........
I think you'll find you've been slightly misinformed.
He's contracted the purpose of a back protector down into a single sentence, leaving out a few things, but he's left the most important bit in; back protectors minimise the likelihood of spinal injury by damping spinal movement ahead of everything else.
Yes, back protectors are designed to flex in only one direction, but I challenge you to find me a back protector that I cant bend 'the wrong way' by using my hands.
If manipulated slowly enough, the spine can almost be bent back on itself without sustaining injury. What bruises spinal cords, ruptures discs and so on is when *adjacent* vertebrae move too much relative to one another and/or if they move too quickly.
A segmented back protector prevents this by coupling several vertebrae together and by compressing the abdominal cavity with the girdle belt. Any bend is slowed down and spread across the whole spine.
They do help prevent hyperextension of the spine, but the main purpose is to cushion impacts and spread them over a larger area.
1. No, that is not the main purpose (how often do you hear about someone hitting their back in a stack).
2. Impact distribution is what the segments of a back protector achieve, anyway. A hit is spread out over the full length of a segment, and because the segments interlock, any hit is automatically spread out across the whole length of the back.
Reducing bruising and damage to your back, ribs and internal organs.
Internal bruising protection is entirely the job of the girdle belt.
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 8:54 pm
by Gosling1
I use a UFO back protector for track work, it has padding on the main 'body' of the protector, and additional padding on the centre section, directly under all the interlocking plates - this section is removeable so you can wash it........they get pretty wet after some circuit work
I *think* it was about $200 roughly ??
Would
never consider track work without it.....
Kidney belts are worth considering if you regularly ride on rough, patchy bitumen........

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 4:03 am
by AussieGuy
Do people where back protectors for everyday riding ? e.g 30mins ride to work ?
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 5:36 am
by Poyda
I have a Dainese one. The $260 job. Its a nust have for any track day or any long social ride. I went with the Dainese because it was in the shop at the time, and they owed me some money and a favour so got it at a discount.
You really need to road test them when you are buying. A mate has a cheaper one, RJays i think, and its crap, has no sideways movement. Stops him getting off the bike and all sorts of stuff. I was actually able to ride around him up on the Oxley Highway last week, it was that bad. Lent him mine for the ride back, and he was gone.
Go to a reputable shop, ask can you leave a deposit and ya details, and go for a ride, just like buying a bike, Try before you buy.
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 6:59 am
by mick_dundee
AussieGuy wrote:Do people where back protectors for everyday riding ? e.g 30mins ride to work ?
Probably an individual thing, I personally don't even have one but know a woman that won't leave home without it.
Re: back protectors
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 9:29 am
by shadow
FoxyZX6R wrote:ok guys and girls,
not sure if its been asked before, but if it has post the link.
what is the most user friendly, mid priced back protector?
you help would be greatly appreciated

i use a spyke protector with titanium mesh and kidney belt which is comfy and protects tailbone as well. it has been well tested with a recent highside and many mini moto incounters which i spent a bit of time on my back. and rammed in back. so i would definitly reccomend this spyke model