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I know it isn't on the 10 so I hope the ABS is not a standard feature... I would also swap TC for a decent quickshifter if I had the option.

EDU wrote:I know it isn't on the 10 so I hope the ABS is not a standard feature... I would also swap TC for a decent quickshifter if I had the option.

The american variant comes with or without.

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They're charging a gorilla more for a six pack or a one pack which ever you're currently sporting.

I don't know why they would want traction control on one of these either, I had a 04 636 and spinning up was never a problem I would also go with a quick shifter it would cost little to do but they are probably worried about the price of the switch.
You have to go and see these things in the flesh the advert is usually based around something like its green and that exhaust is something else to look at.

If these are gonna be the same price as the 675R, it be no contest for me!

675R all the way..... Far too many gold shiney bits to resist!!!!!

Seriously do you need a quick shifter & ohlins on a road bike?

ABS & now TC has become the norm as a standard feature due to european ncap/standards

A zx1400 is a road bike a 600 super sport is a track bike I learnt this somewhere some time ago.
Penske is just as good you know and thank god they have stopped fitting the kyb stuff to them.

When they are sorting out their electronics package at the factory they can put whatever they like in there and you are right they will have to make a 600 cc version for racing but a power shifter and multimap would be more usefull than a traction control.
You probably don't want a power shifter on a er6.

blackster wrote:Seriously do you need a quick shifter & ohlins on a road bike?

ABS & now TC has become the norm as a standard feature due to european ncap/standards

I would never buy this for the road... but even if I did, with a 110km/h speed limit (if lucky) where do you think you'll need TC??

EDU wrote:

blackster wrote:Seriously do you need a quick shifter & ohlins on a road bike?

ABS & now TC has become the norm as a standard feature due to european ncap/standards

I would never buy this for the road... but even if I did, with a 110km/h speed limit (if lucky) where do you think you'll need TC??

leaving the showroom for the first time on green tyres

In all reality I barely got my 10R into TC on the road before it became a trackbike, on the track is where you will notice the TC working in the corners mostly and for a novice track rider like myself this is fantastic way of learning the limits quickly with less risk of a HS
It will also stop big wheelies TC can be turned off btw

IMO both the 6 and 10 are too much bike for the road, almost impractical considering law enforcement is brutal these days and other types of bikes are more suited, but if you have to have one go for it.

The black & white that's on the 13 10 is the goods i reckon! Whats the ball park on costing u reckon ?
16K I'm working around.[/quote]
I just picked up my zx10 for 15k brand new, so I wouldn't be paying 16k for a 636.
Also do they have someone there that designs the biggest ugliest exhausts they can come up?

Call me old... BUT im a firm beliver in T/C and ABS is and should be still controled by the right wrist..

And TC on a 600???? they dont have the grunt to need it

born green wrote:Call me old... BUT im a firm beliver in T/C and ABS is and should be still controled by the right wrist..

And TC on a 600???? they dont have the grunt to need it

Have you tried to ride a modern 600 flat out around the track?

Blurr wrote:

born green wrote:Call me old... BUT im a firm beliver in T/C and ABS is and should be still controled by the right wrist..

And TC on a 600???? they dont have the grunt to need it

Have you tried to ride a modern 600 flat out around the track?

Only Kazz's its a 04 636 pipe PC custom maped by tristan, forget what its making.... i think it around 120.. could be wrong.. would have to go thru her shit to find dyno chart... and gearing altered. its making HP, but just lacks grunt... but then ive only sort been riding litre bikes, even my ZX7R with pipe, jet kit ect feels like a slug at times
What im saying i guess is smaller bikes just seem to lack the grunt required to have TC, def on the road, track would prob be different, when chasing poofteens of a sec.
Im just to old skool, i like to feel it all in the wrist

Yep agreed not talking road either, but we both know these bike are designed for the track first and the road a distant 2nd.

The good/bad thing when trying to ride the 600 fast is you get on the throttle stop fast and hang on as it slides and bites. I used to think it would be almost impossible to HS a 600 but I was way wrong. I used I slide and spin that thing way more than the 1000. It's what you had to do to get momentum up an keep it that way.

Some of the new 600's give my ZX10 a run down the straight until you hit the 240kph mark. They have come a long way in the last 6 years, just like the litre bikes have!

I would think TC and ABS on a road bike would be more for poor or wet road conditions. But then, about 70% of riders have poor riding skills and poor throttle and brake control, so these will benefit the majority of numpty road riders. You just have to look around and notice the number of hyper sports bikes with massive chicken strips, or watch a slow group session at a track day to realise why they are putting electronics on road bikes.

Blurr wrote:Yep agreed not talking road either, but we both know these bike are designed for the track first and the road a distant 2nd.

The good/bad thing when trying to ride the 600 fast is you get on the throttle stop fast and hang on as it slides and bites. I used to think it would be almost impossible to HS a 600 but I was way wrong. I used I slide and spin that thing way more than the 1000. It's what you had to do to get momentum up an keep it that way.

Yer get what ur saying, i notice at say broady, and just the other week, up at MP at warwick, that the guys on the 600's can and are holding the throttle wide open quicker and longer than the bigger bikes, of course, and some times it harder then to close the gap back..

Never really knocking the 600, was at broady a little while ago when dan falazon smashed the supersport lap record there, on a well not the best day for it, was cold and wet earlier.
its like back when racing enduro's in the 80s.. i raced a IT 490 K, pipe, carb, reeds ect, it was a farkin monster, there were guys in the QLD club that were on IT 250s that were quicker on a few tracks, for the same reason.... but i just got addicted to the raw power of bigger bikes... bit hard to go back i guess