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Re: Getting your knee down
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 2:15 pm
by born green
Thanks stu.
Check it out and google it and see where to go, allways a good way to check out a new track.
Will put up a post when im ready, be good to catch up, and maybe u can get there to.
Re: Getting your knee down
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 2:18 pm
by StuMiller
Sure, let me know if you're coming down and I'll free up the weekend and travel up.
Thanks again for your advice, I'm going to have a play with all the settings this weekend.
Have a good one. Cheers!

Re: Getting your knee down
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 2:20 pm
by born green
JPaddo wrote:I haven't knee-downed yet... I'm good at dragging bits and pieces, toes, boot, pegs, and leaning off, cheek off, body inside the line, just feels awkward not having my leg gripped onto the tank. I'll talk about it to em next CSS in a couple of weeks time see if they can help me. So many years of riding, it's a little embarrassing.
It doest mean much really,doesnt make u go faster, its just another tool u can use.
But its fun tho
nothing like the sound of a slider wirring away, well maybe a 10 on full noise

Getting your knee down
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 2:24 pm
by Jonnymac
It's simply your body position, you don't need to lean more to make it happen. There are plenty of blokes that have 10mm plus chicken strips that put their knee down.
It won't even make you faster it will just enable you to add it as a tool to help save front end slides, gauging lean angle and helping you get the bike up like BG said, but that would be much farther down the track.
Get your cheek off and it will happen when you least expect it. Freaked me out the first time, now I don't even think about it .
Re: Getting your knee down
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 2:28 pm
by StuMiller
I'm becoming more and more conscious of my body position when I'm riding and I know I've still got a lot to learn here.
I do look at all the avitars on here and how their bodies are when cornering....I guess I need a "pop" moment when I say, ah, that's how it happens....
Re: Getting your knee down
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 2:30 pm
by JPaddo
I actually feel very comfortable hanging off, I don't think I'm crossed up, my coaches confirm that I've got it nailed... Just that leg won't swing out. I agree it'd be a great tool because it can be hard to judge lean angle otherwise, particularly with differing cambers, and it's a bit offputting when a boot or peg touches down and you thought you still had a bit of room.
Re: Getting your knee down
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 2:36 pm
by born green
Dont worry about mine stu, im 6ft 3, all arms and legs
Got a box full of good shots from everywhere.
Shannon johnson kept getting into me a few years ago, about not hanging off enough!!!
Thats allright i said ur 5ft nothing, if i hang off like u, i will drag my arse on the ground everywhere!!!
But i do study them, to see what i can fix, as in body postion.
Would love to post them up, but havent worked out how yet

Re: Getting your knee down
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 2:43 pm
by born green
JPaddo wrote:I actually feel very comfortable hanging off, I don't think I'm crossed up, my coaches confirm that I've got it nailed... Just that leg won't swing out. I agree it'd be a great tool because it can be hard to judge lean angle otherwise, particularly with differing cambers, and it's a bit offputting when a boot or peg touches down and you thought you still had a bit of room.
It is a great tool, as u said about off camber ect, take the last left at broady, off camber, i use the knee there a lot, from early in the corner, drop it on the knee and lay the bike over hard on my leg, and let it rest there, then use the knee to push off the apex, works for me, but dam hard on sliders!!!
My best at broady was a 101.7 a couple of years ago, so imagine the guys doing sub 1 mim
Re: Getting your knee down
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 2:49 pm
by JPaddo
Certainly looking forward to learning and improving. Really need to get me a tracky though because the 12 is my pet roady, and I'd hate to lay it down at the track, I just enjoy riding it so damn much. Maybe my tracky will have to be a 12 also.
Re: Getting your knee down
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 3:04 pm
by born green
Mate u cant beat having a track only jigger, for reasons u just said.
But main reason is its something u can work on, without having to get it road ready after each track day,
Just dont to it the way i did, bought a new 10, rode it on the road for a bit, did a few track days, then started running slicks, pain in the arse changing them back to road tyres, then race glass, even bigger pain in the arse changing it back again, so said bugger it, track only, handed plates in, sold body work, but cost got out of hand!!!! owes me mmmm 34 grand now and still counting.
Re: Getting your knee down
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 3:23 pm
by JPaddo
born green wrote:Mate u cant beat having a track only jigger, for reasons u just said.
But main reason is its something u can work on, without having to get it road ready after each track day,
Just dont to it the way i did, bought a new 10, rode it on the road for a bit, did a few track days, then started running slicks, pain in the arse changing them back to road tyres, then race glass, even bigger pain in the arse changing it back again, so said bugger it, track only, handed plates in, sold body work, but cost got out of hand!!!! owes me mmmm 34 grand now and still counting.
What have I gotten myself into???

Re: Getting your knee down
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 3:31 pm
by vivek67
love this thread. share the same sentiment. I haven't touched the hallowed ground with my knees either. Yet to reach that milestone in my journey.

Re: Getting your knee down
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 3:31 pm
by Disco
StuMiller wrote:I'm becoming more and more conscious of my body position when I'm riding and I know I've still got a lot to learn here.
I do look at all the avitars on here and how their bodies are when cornering....I guess I need a "pop" moment when I say, ah, that's how it happens....
Here ya go another avitar

....I couldn't do it for ages and then it just happend one ride day at PI....And now I try to do it every corner cause it makes for good photo's

....
On your suspension I have my rear (same bike 07 zx6r) set to 25mm sag which is pretty hard but my tyres look a lot better than that after a session are you using warmers?...
Re: Getting your knee down
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 3:35 pm
by born green
Buy a cheap track ready bike mate, hopfully a lot of work will be done, as u kno, plenty here for sale, or check out formula extreme site, plenty of track bikes there, thats what i should have done, but im not that smart
But im running ohlins and lot of other exp stuff.
And only use n/tec ect, and that blows the running cost out.
And yer i worry about crashing it, havent yet, touch wood, at least with a cheaper bike it is not so much of a worry, hell my 10 even got a hand painted custom paint job!!
Re: Getting your knee down
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 4:08 pm
by JPaddo
Missus is on her L's, she'll do her P's soon. She's already alluded to being a bit meh about it all, we had dreams and aspirations of touring the country together on bikes.
Anyway she says "why don't you sell my bike and buy a tracky?" Of course I'd love to but it's more complicated than that. So what do I do? Work harder, more hours.... 3 bikes is doable right? Where does it end... Soon I'll have Jonno's garage... ARGH!