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Sorry computer has been on the fritz, armour turned out to be CE certified and suit has double stitching so decided to keep it!

GPZ_Jim wrote:I would guess that most 2 piece suits are like that.. hence the cheaper price.. at the end of the day they're not meant to be race leathers for road riding should be fine

Its most likely the overly politically correct thing to say.............I know my Berik has those types of warning labels and the suit has held up very well after 2 crashes one at the track and one on the road........Im very happy with the suit and cant fault it........its most likely a company specific disclaimer.

All garments fitted with genuine CE armour will be supplied with a little booklet that lists the tests that it has been subjected to, usually attached to the zipper. We pay more for amour than some people buy entire suits for.

If no booklet, then it's more than likely fake CE armour. Maybe fine, maybe shit, maybe great. Who knows?

Some interesting facts and even comments from Gimoto.
http://www.visordown.com/product-news/t ... 14530.html

PS. I like Gimoto, and Irena/Ed are good to deal with

Ive crashed twice in my berik 2 piece both times unhurt, not even sore the next day so the armour works. Both crashes in my astars hurt, it has plastic type armour, berik had rubber type. And I got the same warning with my Arlen ness jacket but unless I misread it only mentioned the magnesium shoulder plate not protecting the rider, its there to reduce damage to the suit

For those that are still interested, the armour in the Madif suit mentioned is CE approved, take it out and have a look. The markings are there.
The warning label is there for the item as a whole, because it was not certifed CE as an entire item.

If you look at Berik and Arlen Ness's current range, there is a CE label sewn on the item, because even their jackets are CE approved, meaning they've tested the leather, the seams, the protectors etc.
There's no standard (not yet anyway) for motorcycle equipment other than helmets, France will be the first country to adopt a standard for their riding gear and I think it might come into effect late this year even.
Ixon for example is one of the few brands on the market that has CE certified all the gloves that are required (and not all are required I might add). The rough guide is, if it looks protective, it must be protective and be CE certified.

ce certification is an European standard as as we all know those standards are pretty slack (just look at Greece and Spain)compared to AS Aus standards afaik no AS exists as to leather motorcycle clothing ??

01kx250 wrote:For those that are still interested, the armour in the Madif suit mentioned is CE approved, take it out and have a look. The markings are there.

Just because armour has CE molded into it, doesn't mean it's genuine. There's heaps of fake armour around and no-one seems to be in a hurry to invade Sialkot and close the factories. Of course if you buy from a reputable company you should expect proper CE2 armour.

If anyone's interested, these are the requirements that protective garments are tested for in order to gain CE certification. There's only a couple of companies making suits at CE2 level that I'm aware of

The CE EN 13595 is divided in 4 different sections:
· UNI EN 13595-1:2004
General requirements
· UNI EN 13595-2:2004
[...] Test method for determination of impact abrasion resistance
· UNI EN 13595-3:2004
[...] Test method for determination of burst strength
· UNI EN 13595-4:2004
[...] Test method for determination of impact cut resistance