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matt1414 wrote:So cold tyres are a factor, what sort of "legal"speeds and time does it take to start pushing and testing that grip on the twisties. I've oftened wondered if it's just a few k's at 80-100kph or is it much longer...anyone enlighten me?

I dont know, depends on the air temp as well as road. But just say a nice 20-24 degree day, I would ride at least 3-4K at that sort of speed. Just guessing becuase the good roads are all 15 minutes rode away for me.

Amir wrote:

tim wrote:Hey Amir, do you know exactly why you crashed? Can you put it into words?

I was too fast around the bend. i went for the lean around the corner bt couldnt lean for some reason. I still had time to control it or at least slow down abit but i dunno it was wierd!!! i was only thinking abt the crash itself nd how will things mite end up after!! SO kept going straight ahead until i hit the kerb, I and the bike ended up sliding on the side of the road.

When i got on my bike to go for the ride, i was abit high!! i just wanted to get on the bike and go fast to reward mysef for finishing my VCE exams hahaha wat a reward!!!

Short answer: I was a little over excited about the ride, wasn't thinking much abt the safety...

I am working on my bike tomorrow...

Classic case of not steering around a bend hehe. At least it was only slow speed.

I seen the same thing in the national park, was following a cbr and r6 and going south there are a few really tight bends near the end. Needless to say, there was some honda in ditch action
I think when you see the corner getting really tight just keep leaning, its usually better than running into the other lane or off the road. I cant certify this advice becuase im not an instructor

What I would say, is take it easy in the corners, i remeber back on my 250 i was packing it through the corners at medium speed, but over time it comes. I didnt push myself too hard, not having any friends with bikes also helped back then, now I am confident to take the corners at a decent speed.

matt1414 wrote:So cold tyres are a factor, what sort of "legal"speeds and time does it take to start pushing and testing that grip on the twisties. I've oftened wondered if it's just a few k's at 80-100kph or is it much longer...anyone enlighten me?

As well as temp it depends on your tyres compound, hard or soft, i reckon at 80 or 100 for me about 5 min gets them warmish for corners, but how hard do you want to push? Otherwise more factoes jumo into play, ie suspension etc.

Have fun and always ride sensible.

I believe that is some great advice from Tim i will definately follow them...
That is so true, before the crash i was looking at the kerb and i hit dat exact spot!!! damn

recently i got a letter from TAC abt a rider training day... that is coming up soon, cant wait for dat course

and again i would like to thank u all for sharing ur experiences and advice

RESPECT

Suspect the problem was that you turned in too early, which a lot of us did when we were new and thought we'd overcooked a corner. See if you can get a copy of Twist of The Wrist and read up on reference points. (Or get the twist of the wrist 2 dvd).

dilligaf wrote:Suspect the problem was that you turned in too early, which a lot of us did when we were new and thought we'd overcooked a corner. See if you can get a copy of Twist of The Wrist and read up on reference points. (Or get the twist of the wrist 2 dvd).

Or even better get Twist of the Wrist 2 (the book)

I have had many close calls and only one crash ever on the road, was a lowside on a round-about oh lets see.... 1985 on a mates 250, broken indicator and a wet arse plus bruised ego.

Diesel spill on a dark wet cold night and although cautiously as I tried to ride in the wet that night I put it down to an unskilled 15 y/o rider.

In other words riding to the conditions is also a skill wich usually comes from experience and following others in these conditions.

This is how I learned to ride, working it out myself mostly but following and watching others wether they are good riders or plain crap, I have learned plenty about what not to do. Sometimes this means slightly pushing past your comfort zone and trust the bike