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Re: PI Supers Ride Day Death....
Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:19 pm
by TopCat
triway wrote:Wattie wrote:...looks like afterburner will have a short future.

Why??
Very sad that this guy passed today, as it is every time someone does, but why would that affect future events? It's a dangerour thing we do, and occasionally this is going to happen. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool.
I heard the attending copper interviewed on the news on the way home from work.
Basically he said that it was a well run activity and that anyone planning to do one in the future should still do it
TC
Re: PI Supers Ride Day Death....
Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:03 pm
by csgup1
The afterburner days are extremly well run with noone being allowed to go out without a proper briefing and instruction. there is also a limit to how many people go out on the track. Unfortunately riding on 2 wheels is dangerous at this stuff is bound to happen at some time or the other. I just hope the fun nazis dont get on this and try and ban the event just because they dont have that perspective. Take care people. and ride safe.
Re: PI Supers Ride Day Death....
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 5:08 am
by robracer
Gosling1 wrote:
bugger, that is sad news...RIP and condolences to family and friends.......
robracer wrote:
Question for those that know........Is the afterburner a Track day with normal fast to slow groups? & who is it run by?
One of the local boys does the AB track day each year Rob - I am pretty sure he said it is run by the normal operator (PI Ride Days), and it does have normal groups - biggest difference is that you just pay by the session, I think it was $50 a session or something like that.....
Thanks Gos, & csgup1 you are right about the danger aspect, it is so easy to become complacent about the inerrant dangers about the sport we are involved in.
Re: PI Supers Ride Day Death....
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:10 am
by Smitty
Ratmick wrote:Smitty wrote:
RIP
and hope none of our members were involved
Mate the fact that you posted makes me think that none of our 72yo members were involved

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Mick
actually was thinking more of the rider who struck the guy who came off.....
pretty sure some of the KSRC PI crew who go hang around and do the ride day
hence my comment
Re: PI Supers Ride Day Death....
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:19 am
by J-rex
Very sad indeed
Did anyone know about this, from The Age:
"We'll be inspecting the bike and it might have been a case where he just fell off," WorkSafe spokesman Michael Birt said.
Under the terms and conditions for the ride, the organisers recommended that all riders wear full leathers and those choosing not to wear the protective gear were restricted to 120km/h.
I thought you weren't allowed on if you didn't have full leathers, thats been the case for all the ride days i've done at the Island.....and the 120K thing, how would they enforce that?...
Re: PI Supers Ride Day Death....
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:49 am
by triway
J-rex wrote:Very sad indeed
Did anyone know about this, from The Age:
"We'll be inspecting the bike and it might have been a case where he just fell off," WorkSafe spokesman Michael Birt said.
Under the terms and conditions for the ride, the organisers recommended that all riders wear full leathers and those choosing not to wear the protective gear were restricted to 120km/h.
I thought you weren't allowed on if you didn't have full leathers, thats been the case for all the ride days i've done at the Island.....and the 120K thing, how would they enforce that?...
Irrelevant, as the guy was in full leathers.
That rule is exclusive to Afterburner day.
Re: PI Supers Ride Day Death....
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 12:43 pm
by Gosling1
which rule - the one about enforcing a 120kmh limit, if rides choose to ride in textile/Draggins etc ??
How *does* a ride-day operator enforce that sort of rule ?? Are there radar guns around the track to measure speed, and riders are black-flagged if they exceed the limit ?
I am really interested in how this sort of arbitrary restriction could actually be *enforced*, because most decent bikes can do that limit in 2nd gear !

Re: PI Supers Ride Day Death....
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 1:02 pm
by tim
'Restricted to 120km/hr' how ridiculous.
Sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen!
What do they do if someone rocks up with draggins on a bike with no speedo?

Re: PI Supers Ride Day Death....
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:46 pm
by craig
there in being the catch....litigation law/ insurance premiums may see the end of the afterburner....
just a thought

Re: PI Supers Ride Day Death....
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 5:07 pm
by Gosling1
craig wrote:.....there in being the catch....litigation law/ insurance premiums may see the end of the afterburner....
just a thought

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I don't think this will be the case at all. Any track-day presents the possibility of death or serious injury - its part of the game. That's what keeps insurance companies in business. If the activity was too dangerous, no insurance would be available.....and neither would track days.
It will be investigated by Vic Workcover , not sure if it would be treated as a workplace death or not.....but at the end of the day, activities like this have an inherent high risk of injury or death, and we all need to keep that in mind every track-day we attend.

Re: PI Supers Ride Day Death....
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:27 pm
by J-rex
Gosling1 wrote:
....but at the end of the day, activities like this have an inherent high risk of injury or death, and we all need to keep that in mind every track-day we attend.

Agreed.......you always have to sign your life away on that one.....
triway wrote:
Irrelevant, as the guy was in full leathers.
That rule is exclusive to Afterburner day.
Still, leathers bit aside, first i've heard of a 120K speed limit on
any kind of ride-day, regardless of who is running it...
Ridiculous type of thing to try and enforce!.
Re: PI Supers Ride Day Death....
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:45 am
by dave#3
Poor bastard, but as others have said, I'll be pretty fuckin' happy if I'm still getting 'round on a sportsbike at 72. RIP dude.
Re: PI Supers Ride Day Death....
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 12:17 pm
by laidback
This death is like all others, extremely sad for anyone involved regardless of age/length of innings, celebrity status etc.
So where does insurance come into this...Don't you sign an indemnity saying that you can't sue anybody for anything?
Re: PI Supers Ride Day Death....
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 1:12 pm
by Cath
How sad

I feel for all his loved ones, family or friends, as well as the poor bugger who hit him... how awful

Re: PI Supers Ride Day Death....
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 3:15 pm
by photomike666
Whilst I feel for the family and friends, I'd rather go that way, doing something I love than through some drawn out illness.
And to all track day punters and wanna be track day adicts, if someone slides out in a corner, hitting the brakes makes you follow them.