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Re: Tricky RBT
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 6:03 pm
by HYPE
Ultramarine wrote:If the money from fines went into the Police budget we'd be spending all day handing out fistfulls of them. Policeman's ball? Good one!
tongue in cheek sarcasm
sir
Ultramarine wrote:I don't see the point in taking your sweet time putting your gear back on just to piss the cops off.
that would more than likely be a mild form of retaliation for the certain intentional inconveniences imposed upon individuals...
Ultramarine wrote:You're more likely to fail the 'attitude test'.
I normally decide if I'm going to give someone a ticket within the first five seconds of speaking to them based purely on their attitude.
There are some exceptions to this but thats the jist of it.
Your 'discretion' would be better served by way of public relations & conflict resolution, you might find the result to be rewarding personally & professionally!
Now don't take me as 'cop bashing' ... i just say it as i saw it... being that FOC & The Rook took the wrong approach and in doing so failed to realise the situation at hand, as they were too busy trying to show off and intimidate. The Rook inspected my Licence and handed it back to me (expired date and all)
FOC started to Threaten EPA orders and the likes and felt the need to critique parts of the bike which were factory fitted (OEM)... I held very little respect for this and deemed it unnecessary as i was polite, cooperative and genuinely embaressed for MY error.
The only redeeming factor of this situation was the NICE, POLITE and UNDERSTANDING snr officer who wrote up the ticket and took me aside to thoroughly explain what the issue was and also explained my rights and the options available to me. He also offered to keep an eye on my parked bike whilst i organised recovery. Not once did he treat me like a POI, HOON or less than human.
His colleagues should take notes.
And as for the 'Att Test' ... drop the BS

we breathe the same air, shit the same colour and possibly even flog to the same style of porn... (this i'm not certain of at this point in the conversation however benefit of the doubt will be given... innocent until proven guilty right?!)
If by chance you're posted @ LLAC you can ask Greeny if i pass the AT or not.
Re: Tricky RBT
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 6:10 pm
by aardvark
HYPE wrote:that would more than likely be a mild form of retaliation for the certain intentional inconveniences imposed upon individuals...
You think they give a shit? They're still getting paid regardless of how long you take...
Re: Tricky RBT
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 6:13 pm
by HYPE
ty wrote:damn
You probably didn't even get a notification for renewal from the rta did you?
My wife didn't the last time hers was up - you have to watch it yourself.
unfortunately nil renewal/reminder letters were sent as per RTA protocol ... as i've often received them in the past
the kind lady at the RTA this morning looked it up and confirmed a letter was not sent as it should be and confirmed my address is on file.
However, yes it is our responsibility to maintain the little digits on our cards.
I won't be taking the 5 year option again as it's too easy to lose track of it.. at least if it's annually you're expecting it..
NOTE: CHECK YOUR EXPIRY DATES OR OPEN YOUR WALLETS!
Re: Tricky RBT
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:23 pm
by tim
Re: Tricky RBT
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 7:51 am
by mohawk miss
many years ago I was RBT'd coming home from somewhere in my old ambo, with my dog in the front passenger seat (wearing the seat belt) as usual, not very far from home.
The very young and very rude constable asked for my licence(all good), I blew into the bag(all good) then asked me where I had been.
"At dog agility"
He grunts at me, then proceeds to lean bodily into the drivers side window so he can look into the back of the ambo(anyone familiar with F100's will know this requires some forward momentum/force to get high enough)
my dog then lunges at the cop for appearing (to her) to be attacking me

. The only reason she didn't connect was that I grabbed her.Cop stumbles backwards into traffic and nearly gets hit by car. I think, Oh #$@#. Very red-faced and now very angry young rude cop comes back to car, but before he can say anything the sgt there puts his hand on his shoulder and said "you deserved that. Go sit in the car."
He then handed me back my licence, apologised to me and wished me a good night. I thought I was gone for all money.
Re: Tricky RBT
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 8:30 am
by robracer
mohawk miss wrote:my dog then lunges at the cop for appearing (to her) to be attacking me

. The only reason she didn't connect was that I grabbed her.Cop stumbles backwards into traffic and nearly gets hit by car
Thats cool, bit of in yer face interaction

Re: Tricky RBT
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 8:33 am
by smithy5
Re: Tricky RBT
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:13 pm
by philbo
robracer wrote:smithy5 wrote:Wadda ya mean now..... I thought they/you were always here.............
Yes always ........& here is one now

and a motorbike copper told me they dont need to wear protective clothes because they do countless hours of training
honestly they need more than latex and a shirt
Re: Tricky RBT
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:17 am
by mike-s
robracer wrote:There use to be 2 cops that would get punters in the T2 AM lane on Lane Cove road city bound just before Sydney City MC.
One would be visible & one would be down the last street on the left before the Lane cove road cop, needless to say as soon as the main cop was spotted a left turn would would follow ending in a booking, it was a no through road so I can imagine the punters trying to explain why they were there

Stupid thing was it happened every week & there were so many getting caught out

This was in the late 80's before the tunnel.
Close, but not quite. They used to have a "spotter' who would identify cars running through the T2 lane illegally, who would then direct them to go around the corner, where copper #2 would proceed to book them.
How do i know this? I was done.
Only reason i was in there in the first place was i had just done a nightshift and was particularly shattered. I figured it was worth running the gauntlet and risking being nabbed (are there point penalties for no passenger?) just so i could try and get home quickly. It worked in my favour though, for that one time i was done, there was at least 20 times i used it without being pinged. Honestly though, i figure although they wouldn't buy the "safety" mention (i didnt even try explaining) it makes sense to get home asap so im off the road and curled up in bed as soon as humany possible & reducing the danger to myself & others.
Re: Tricky RBT
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:08 am
by aardvark
philbo wrote:honestly they need more than latex and a shirt
Great, someone else with no idea putting their 2 cents worth in.
Re: Tricky RBT
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:13 am
by robracer
mike-s wrote:How do i know this? I was done.
Makes sense Mike, my memory is not what it used to be

Re: Tricky RBT
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:55 am
by mike-s
My used to be isn't quite my memory either..... oh no, wait a minute.
Re: Tricky RBT
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:19 pm
by Ultramarine
HYPE wrote:
And as for the 'Att Test' ... drop the BS

we breathe the same air, shit the same colour and possibly even flog to the same style of porn... (this i'm not certain of at this point in the conversation however benefit of the doubt will be given... innocent until proven guilty right?!)
That is exactly why I give 98% of people the benefit of the doubt and let them off with a warning, unless of course they are an asshole to me. I'm just doing my job, it's not my fault that they broke the law or that they did it where I was looking. Why would I use my discretion if they give me an earful?
A simple "yeah, I was on my phone. I'm an idiot, sorry." "No problem, don't do it again ok? Have a nice day." Not all cops are assholes.
Re: Tricky RBT
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:47 pm
by philbo
aardvark wrote:philbo wrote:honestly they need more than latex and a shirt
Great, someone else with no idea putting their 2 cents worth in.
mate not sure if the pic has to do with you, and if it does i hope your injuries were minimal, but my point is for motorbike coppers what they have going for them in the way of safety for torso and legs seems pretty average in an event of a lay down.
Re: Tricky RBT
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:26 pm
by smithy5
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