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Re: A bad case of the run wides.

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:36 pm
by z900/zx9
Mmmmmm Maybe it was someone that looked like me ;) ,besides my bikes gold not orange. :lol: .Yeah i thought it would be out of character for Dennis but strange coincidence wife and hubby 2 bmws .

Re: A bad case of the run wides.

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:54 pm
by javaman
Hey... if Stoner or Rossi can run wide, why can't we :lol:

I think it's just a mater of one's limitation... and I have found mine too at some ditch :kuda:

Re: A bad case of the run wides.

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:12 pm
by Pistol Pete
i don't get it. deadset scares the shit out of me if i even start to run wide, or can see my line being a bit off from my lane.
i know that i'm only a young'n with quite a bit to learn, but i've always found it difficult to see how some riders think that it would possibly be a good idea or acceptable for that kind of riding. the only time i've ever run wide was because i didn't want to run too tight on a blind, unmarked, narrow, and non-lined backroad....albeit i was on my tard chasing other tards. Even though we hadn't experienced any other traffic for 20 mins, i consciously pushed it wide..just in case..overdid it, hit some gravel, slid the rear off the road, put the foot down and powered right back onto the road. it all happened so quickly, and i wasn't too put out by it, but if i'd done the same thing on my road bike, i'd have been proper fucked.
And that plays with me whenever i change from one bike to another, sometimes i get a little lazy on the tard cos she's so forgiving, but the Z is well unimpressed when i don't calculate it properly.

Re: A bad case of the run wides.

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:42 pm
by Madness
Being still new to riding, I am not yet in the hooning around corners yet. Though I have been told my riding has improved out of sight recently. I find it weird that I feel like I can handle left hand corners better than right handers. Is this common in new riders or riders in general? To be able to get around one better than the other?

I don't know how to describe it, but I feel like I am trying to pull the bike around the corner, and I know this is wrong. (hope that makes sense to someone)

Cheers

Lisa

Re: A bad case of the run wides.

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:49 pm
by robracer
Madness wrote:I can handle left hand corners better than right handers. Is this common in new riders or riders in general?
Lisa you are defenently not alone there :lol: you have to struggle through it & force yourself to make RH corners stick :?

Re: A bad case of the run wides.

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:08 pm
by Phil
I only go onto the wrong side of the road if I mean to do it ;) , some roads allow you to see thru the corners, some others dont.

I also dont understand how some people think its OK to over take round corners, saw a prime example of an insane manouvre when Russ & I were comming back from the island - simply outrageous. We both just shook our heads in disbelief.

Re: A bad case of the run wides.

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:19 pm
by sunshine
interesting stuff marty
remembering trying to follow your tail all was good untill...that ever tightening raduis corner caught me out ;-( :oops:
all was good tho.... :D :D

but riding with the msbr ....trying to follow one bloke (cliff ) who happens to ride pretty damm good
i tried my best to follow him on trip too thompsons dam ...im no spring chicken it has to be said cliff may have few years on me and more talent in his little pinky to boot ... i tried like hell to hang on to him ....at every turn he put more and more distance between he and myself in the end i did run wide with excessive speed , trying to make it up in the straight etc etc
this guy rides like the wind and as effortless as you like smooth and silky exactly how you should ride ...

im still trying to to emulate his efffortless style 8) 8)
i dont how old cliffy is but id reckon 55 or so , his newest ride is 2008 zx10 suspension zorst and afew other mods
this guy can ride and inspires me to get a little more tidier when im out and about

i suppose its the ole two bulls tale
one bull say see those cows down therein the paddock lets bolt down a f#&k a few of them !!!
the othe older bull says ... nah lets just stroll over and f*@k em all :lol: :lol:

mick

Re: A bad case of the run wides.

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:34 pm
by Blurr
robracer wrote:
Madness wrote:I can handle left hand corners better than right handers. Is this common in new riders or riders in general?
Lisa you are defenently not alone there :lol: you have to struggle through it & force yourself to make RH corners stick :?
it is more uncommon for a rider not to favour a side. Natural for most to favour one over the other. I am a bit weird as i favour rights. It's not that I cant do lefts (hahahahahahahahaha..........ahm inside joke :roll: ) I am just more naturally comfortable with the right handers.
Phil wrote:I only go onto the wrong side of the road if I mean to do it ;) , some roads allow you to see thru the corners, some others dont.

I also dont understand how some people think its OK to over take round corners, saw a prime example of an insane manouvre when Russ & I were comming back from the island - simply outrageous. We both just shook our heads in disbelief.
that guys was a lunatic and deserved to be a wheel chock if he kept it up.

Re: A bad case of the run wides.

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:49 pm
by Pistol Pete
Madness wrote:Being still new to riding, I am not yet in the hooning around corners yet. Though I have been told my riding has improved out of sight recently. I find it weird that I feel like I can handle left hand corners better than right handers. Is this common in new riders or riders in general? To be able to get around one better than the other?

I don't know how to describe it, but I feel like I am trying to pull the bike around the corner, and I know this is wrong. (hope that makes sense to someone)

Cheers

Lisa
I've had the exact same experience. especially on open right handers....for some insane and ridiculous reason, i can read a blind left corner from the camber and width of the road much better....
having said that though, i managed to get my knee down on the weekend on a right-hander without expecting it, and a peg down on the left..

with complete lack of evidence or research, and strictly of my own opinion, i reckon it is pretty well tied in with our right hands being dominant for the flow of throttle and steadiness of power input, whereas our left is focussed more on the push and pull of counter-steering. it must just seem easier for most to push away with the left (in left hand corners) than it is to push with the right (in right hand corners) as shifting the twist grip of the throttle could be involved....just a thought though..

Re: A bad case of the run wides.

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:53 pm
by zx-10r
k1200, thats a pretty solid bike, how do they weight in at?

Re: A bad case of the run wides.

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:15 pm
by Pistol Pete
no idea ZX-10r, but i know for a fact that Beast from twf can handle his almost as well as i can my tard in the twisties.....almost :twisted:

Re: A bad case of the run wides.

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:32 am
by Madness
Thanks for the advice guys. Yeah I guess just practice will be the only answer. I think you're right about pushing when you're going into the rights, the throttle hand just seems wrong pushing it. But I will practice my heart out.

Cheers

Lisa

Re: A bad case of the run wides.

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:30 am
by Greenblood
I have a question......

After dropping the track bike at EC, the rearset hit the deck & the front folded at turn 12.
I am not as cofident on the road bike as I was before, going for max lean.
I have done a few rides and still dont feel 100% confident in the tyre, How long should it take to get that back? :?

Re: A bad case of the run wides.

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:37 am
by Six Addict
all in the mind joe!!! just gotta say, bugger it, im just gonna push gradually the boundaries that your mind currently has in place...

Re: A bad case of the run wides.

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:19 am
by dilligaf
Madness wrote:Thanks for the advice guys. Yeah I guess just practice will be the only answer. I think you're right about pushing when you're going into the rights, the throttle hand just seems wrong pushing it. But I will practice my heart out.

Cheers

Lisa
Try one of the HART courses at Tullamarine. The Advanced 1 is good. Really sorted out my cornering technique.