Geez I love it when people forget what they have posted, and then go on to post more gold......
FONC wrote:....Please Rusty leave me alone mate I did not start this! .....
well actually no, you did start it with this gem.....
FONC wrote:....G'day Bogan, Don't like raining on anyones party but altitude does make a difference....blah blah blah...
and then there was this ripper sequence......nothing quoted out of context either, just straight-up quotes....
FONC wrote:...Go back and have another read no one stated that you should change your jetting ......
So no-one suggested that jetting should be changed . ? Hang on a minute, what about this pearl of wisdom ??.....
FONC wrote:....You have 3 choices Set it for Canberra, set it for Bega or go half way between....
and then you even asked this question of Rusty !!
FONC wrote:.....I would just say please show me in my two posts where I said everybody had to rejet?? ....
well I hope that clears it up for you.
You were seriously suggesting jetting changes based on altitude, for a ride-day bike. Not a competion bike. This is not about chasing 10ths at a racetrack. It was a question from a punter looking for simple advice, not bullshit about the lack of oxygen at Charlottes Pass - BTW what is the name of the road that runs over the top of Kosciosko ??
Canberra is 575m above sea level.
Cooma is 619m above sea level.
Jinda is 918m above sea level.
Charlottes Pass is 1760m above sea level
and last but by *no* means least, good old Mt Kosi is 2228m above sea level.
Of course, the fact that no-one can actually *DRIVE* at 2228m above sea level is clearly lost on old mate up north. But never let the facts get in the way of a good argument eh ?
(Charlotte Pass may only be a few km's away from Kosi ' as the crow flies', but it is almost 500m below Mt Kosi in altitude...)
I simply called bullshit on your suggestion that jetting changes are required for a Canberra-based road bike to be used on the coast. Thats because it
is bullshit, pure and simple. You can argue the toss all you like, no-one rejets their bike to ride down the coast and back, or up to Khancoban or onwards to Tintaldra (which is only 250m above sea level).....they never have and they never will. Get over it.
No-one suggested that atmospheric pressure didn't change at sea-level ? And the references to the US were about *real* altitude changes, where rarefied air can and does make an appreciable difference. I was a tad conservative about the height above sea level for roads in the Rockies, they range up to 10,000 feet above sea level, makes Kosi look like a zit on a camels arse really.......
anyway, how about some more gold.....
FONC wrote:.....I fully understand why people rejet at the track I was not asking myself why!....
Glad to know you understand why people rejet. Join the club, a hell of a lot of us understand exactly the same thing.
fonc wrote:....The original question was from someone (Bogan) who was going to run on a track day at PI or EC!....
Yes, a ride-day, on a stock road-bike. Which makes this next statement somewhat irrelavent and incorrect (and I have now lost all respect, so have removed the capitalization of your name
).....
fonc wrote:....So I would personally be looking for power if I was racing!!!....
Who is racing ? Not Bogan, he is just doing a ride-day. He isn't chasing 10ths. Read the original question in its correct context before showering us all with your bottomless pit of knowledge - OK ?
fonc wrote:....Canberra's altitude is 550 mtrs above sea level and I agree would make little difference to most standard vehicles but that was not the original question!.....
aaaahhhh HAAA !! a retraction....of sorts. And yes, it *was* the original question, it had nothing to do with *racing*. That was an angle that you have added to the discussion.
Now, how about some 'out-of-context' quoting......a bit like this.
fonc wrote:....Gos said atmospheric pressure changes at "higher levels" well that is bullshit it changes at any level from below sea level to well and truely above sea level!....
The context where I posted that comment related to the changes needed to jetting where the large changes in atmospheric pressure actually warranted jetting changes. Which of course mainly only occurs at much higher altitudes (where the air is thin). But never let the opportunity to quote someone out of context slip past. Its always good to try this angle, and I also note that you have complained vociferously about being subjected to the same thing !!!
I cannot imagine that you would have a double-standard for either whinging about being quoted out of context, or quoting someone else out of context.....would you ?
For the record, I have looked for any refererence in my posts where I have suggested that atmospheric pressure changes ONLY occur at high altitudes. It dissapoints me greatly to have failed to find one.....
I will leave the best till last........this one *really* cracked me up !!
fonc wrote:....Where do you get off telling people they are wrong when they are not....
Of course - it all makes perfect sense to me now !! You are one of those guys who is *never* wrong about *anything*, everyone else is a total fuckwit who doesn't know their arse from their elbow, and your immense encyclopeadic knowledge of all things mechanical is the *ONLY* reference source that we should listen to....
thanks for the entertainment though, its been a lot of fun finding out how little I actually know about jetting !!
Do you recommend jetting changes for the weekend warriors heading up Mt Nebo / Mt Glorious ?? Its a hell of a pressure drop, and not much oxygen up that way either (too many thieves) !
Unfortunately, I can't let this next quote go by without saying something - because it actually pisses me off quite a bit. This gem relates to another forum, where a member had issues with his little 2fiddy kwakka. Strika pm'd me about it, because *not one* of the experts over there could help out old mate (who is a local here at Anarchy Road). Here is the quote....
fonc wrote:....Your mate Gos did that before (not read total thread) and totally fucked up by not reading the whole article. It was in relation to valve timing on a 250 twin!....
In the interests of a balanced viewpoint, here is what *actually* happened.......I told Brucey *exactly* what I thought the problem with his bike was, he bought it over to my workshop, where it was fixed and returned to him. As usual, some know-all know-nothing arseclowns had suggested all manner of bullshit fixes on this other forum. As usual, it was the simple things which had gone wrong. So it was simple to fix and return to the owner....running properly again.
I don't know how old mate up north thinks I *totally fucked up by not reading the whole article* ( I read
every single fucking post on that thread about Brucey's 250 (all 19 pages worth) before posting
anything about helping him. I have no time for ill-informed opinions
)- but its not the first time some self-proclaimed legend from Qld on that other forum, has presented himself as the only person who knows a ring-spanner from a plug spanner .....fuck me they get upset when you disagree with them
. The main 'tard on the other forum got heaps of grief from a lot of members about blowing his own trumpet, so he just STFU which was appreciated by all and sundry.
Fonc - you need to check your
facts before spinning crap on here about what happens on other forums. That sort of stuff really pisses me off. Especially when so-called fucking *expert mechanics* cannot diagnose a simple problem like the one Brucey had.....after 19 pages FFS !!! It was a joke.
So the question I have for you, fonc, is - exactly *HOW* did I totally fuck up ? If you are going to spin shit like that, you better have evidence to back it up - or just STFU and stop spinning bullshit !!!!
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