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Re: Chains and Sprockets
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 6:55 pm
by Slow and wobbly
Ooops yeah on the front - just got rears on my mind

Re: Chains and Sprockets
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:02 pm
by Gosling1
BikerBoy wrote:.....If I get the "quick acceleration' being 14 / 50 does the chain become a 520? or stay 525? (i've no idea what that number refers to anyway).....
the gearing is independent of the pitch of the chain - those numbers (520, 525 etc) actually refer to the pitch of the chain - its physical size and dimensions. Chain pitch is the distance between any three consective rivets divided by two. All chain sizes are expressed in the *imperial* system - ie any chain starting with a '5' has a 5/8 pitch (approx 16mm). The second and 3rd digits refer to the width of the rollers. Big old chains on hairy-chested air-cooled 4's were a *huge* 630 pitch

- these babies weigh a ton and suck horsepower. 530 pitch is a lot more common on bigger bikes these days, and smaller bikes run 525 or 520 chains - there are conversion kits out there for track bikes, so you can convert your 525 to a 520 - the whole deal is worth it on track bikes, as a lighter chain takes less power away from the engine, and because they are lighter, they also reduce unsprung weight ( well, the rear sprocket and about 1/2 the chain is unsprung....), so this can help your suspension work more effectively.

Re: Chains and Sprockets
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:08 pm
by BikerBoy
Awesome thanks for the help and advice Wobbly, Gos
14/40 520 conversion kit looks the goods, i've emai the ebay store.. wonder how much shipping to Aus will be..

Re: Chains and Sprockets
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:13 pm
by SoundGuy
BikerBoy wrote:Awesome thanks for the help and advice Wobbly, Gos
14/40 520 conversion kit looks the goods, i've emai the ebay store.. wonder how much shipping to Aus will be..

60 bucks mate

Re: Chains and Sprockets
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:23 pm
by BikerBoy
60 aye.. that makes it $210 Aud - not a bad price at all
Stupid shipping costs.. deals from the the US look awesome before that hit you with the shipping.
Still good price..
Did you order your kit? We need a group discount!

Re: Chains and Sprockets
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:33 pm
by Neka79
i found rear 520 chain got eaten up real quick by my cbr.... considering a 520 isnt as strong as a 530...
also one tooth on the front is like nearly 3 on the back... so going up 2 on the back isnt bad, but i go down one on the front....
thats just my 2c worth...
Re: Chains and Sprockets
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:51 pm
by BikerBoy
Neka79 wrote:i found rear 520 chain got eaten up real quick by my cbr.... considering a 520 isnt as strong as a 530...
also one tooth on the front is like nearly 3 on the back... so going up 2 on the back isnt bad, but i go down one on the front....
thats just my 2c worth...
Yea Website i'm buying from reckons that they'd done a lot of dyno work and R&D
and found the perfect sprocket set up to be down 1 on front + up 2 on back, so i guess its like going down to a 13 tooth front with so much pressure applying to the 520 chain.
14/40 looks like a standard 'quick acceleration' setup so 14/42 - should give the bike much more torque and acceleration down low (which is always welcome on a inline 4 in the city)
Re: Chains and Sprockets
Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:11 pm
by Neka79
BikerBoy wrote:Neka79 wrote:i found rear 520 chain got eaten up real quick by my cbr.... considering a 520 isnt as strong as a 530...
also one tooth on the front is like nearly 3 on the back... so going up 2 on the back isnt bad, but i go down one on the front....
thats just my 2c worth...
Yea Website i'm buying from reckons that they'd done a lot of dyno work and R&D
and found the perfect sprocket set up to be down 1 on front + up 2 on back, so i guess its like going down to a 13 tooth front with so much pressure applying to the 520 chain.
14/40 looks like a standard 'quick acceleration' setup so 14/42 - should give the bike much more torque and acceleration down low (which is always welcome on a inline 4 in the city)
that is a 5 tooth turnaround...
thats a lot......gunna throw ur speedo out...
Re: Chains and Sprockets
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 6:55 am
by mick_dundee
Slow and wobbly wrote:2. Buy from the States - E-bay or online dealer. Alternately boyfriend people in the industry as I have done and never pay retail.
Adrian, you supply knee pads for the service?

Re: Chains and Sprockets
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:53 am
by Neka79
mick_dundee wrote:Slow and wobbly wrote:2. Buy from the States - E-bay or online dealer. Alternately boyfriend people in the industry as I have done and never pay retail.
Adrian, you supply knee pads for the service?

mick... just pay the retail..u'd be better off!!...no1 will want u on ur knees for them mate...
Re: Chains and Sprockets
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:30 pm
by Gosling1
Neka79 wrote:...no1 will want u on ur knees for them mate...
yeh, like you'd knock him back if he took his teeth out !

Re: Chains and Sprockets
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:56 pm
by Neka79
Gosling1 wrote:Neka79 wrote:...no1 will want u on ur knees for them mate...
yeh, like you'd knock him back if he took his teeth out !

he has teeth??
Re: Chains and Sprockets
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:31 pm
by IsleofNinja
Check ebay store 'onlinebikeshop'. seller 'dirtbiker blacktown'
item 150150700019
Selling RK quality chain and JT sprocket sets..your choice of o or x ring , plain or gold chain.Just brought a set for the ol GPZ.. good gear , reasonable price.
IMO I prefer a stock or +1 tooth front and change ratio with rear.. Is the dearer way to play with ratios but I feel it tends to suck less hp when the chain is driven by a larger front and seems to last longer.
Alloy rears seem to wear ok as long as you keep that chain at the right tension and keep it lubed..Fail to do either and it'll chew out real quick.
Preferance on chain lube anyone? (mine Belray gel)
Re: Chains and Sprockets
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:22 pm
by Gosling1
Chain lube - I have been using Motorex 'Racing' chain lube for a while. It goes on white, and stays white for a while.....when the colour has gone, its time to re-lube. Every 2-3 weeks is the norm for a re-lube.
The OEM chain on the MFP12 has now done almost 35k, and is still in great condition. I reckon I can squeeze 50k out of it, and that will be between 3 and 4 years of riding ( some of which has been done with a wicked demenour

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Re: Chains and Sprockets
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:04 pm
by Cooper 6R
Hey there
Go the vortex chain and sprocket kit. i bought the same one through the same shop. great people. I had a 15 tooth front 40 tooth back and now 14 front 42 back and loving it. now she gets up first gear under power(power wheelie) and im playing with it all the way through 2nd. im going to try sitting right back and popping it in third i recon it will come up. still getting useto the differance in power although.
I rang the shop for a price on installing it, they said $70 an hour, I said @*#@%$ $70 #@$% dollars. then i asked how much for a chain breaker, they said $20 i said sold.
2 hours latter i was riding around looking like a grease monkey whith a big smile on me dial.
You cant go wrong. it took about a week to get here but worth the wait. Here is a pic
Cheers