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Re: Tying Down Bike on Trailer advice.

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:53 pm
by bonester
I've found that if I DON'T tie my bikes down on the trailer with the front suspension fully compressed, then the tiedowns can be under less than full compression when the trailer hits a bump, and the lack of tension on the tie downs allows them to let go of the bike, with the bike falling over. (into the other bike on the trailer, unfortunately- the wheel arches of my trailer stop the bikes from falling anywhere than inwards- guess that's better than falling off onto the road.) So far in three years of transporting bikes this way, none have blown a fork seal. :)

Re: Tying Down Bike on Trailer advice.

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:51 pm
by Gosling1
Here are those photos of the 'Wasteland Tiedowns'...........

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This set-up saw the MFP12 transported to Eastern Creek for 3 hours with nary a move......

There was 1 additional tie-down used across the back of the trailer, using the rear footpegs as a 'loop' point, simply to stop the rear of the bike from moving across the flat trailer floor. If you had a full-length channel, the rear tie-down is pretty much redundant.

This method is only applicable to those bikes with a hollow front axle.......and as I-K says, if you run 2 or 3 bikes together that are riding on their own suspenion, make sure that they do not foul footpegs on engine covers etc.....

On a bike with normal forks, you can loop the tie-down around the fork leg directly above the lower, fatter part of the fork. Tied tightly around here, the tie-down is then attached to a tie-down point. This method also allows the bike to ride on its own suspension (as per the Wasteland method), and ensures that fork seals will never blow.

MX bikes are the worst for blowing seals.......those under-guard alloy brackets from Geoff Ballard are worth the money !!!

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Re: Tying Down Bike on Trailer advice.

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:57 pm
by SoundGuy
Great set up mate :)

And thanks for the extra pointers 8)

Re: Tying Down Bike on Trailer advice.

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:28 am
by I-K
Gosling1 wrote:MX bikes are the worst for blowing seals.......those under-guard alloy brackets from Geoff Ballard are worth the money !!!
There's those, or you can just crack the air bleed screws on the fork caps when you've got the bike tied down. ;)

Re: Tying Down Bike on Trailer advice.

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:23 am
by portaz
holly wrote:like the look of these
http://www.kyaracing.com.au/product.htm" target="_blank" target="_blank
Nothing better than these... spend the money and get these, as they are piss easy to use, and dont damage anything...

Soundguy, what date you doing the island? Im booked in for the 26th...

Re: Tying Down Bike on Trailer advice.

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:32 pm
by Westinghouse
I just got back last week from a trip to PI and back via EC and after 4180.1 kms with both tyres in channel, a tyre down, and a rok strap (flat ocky strap) holding down the front wheel, with no incident, i reckon the tyre down is well worth the money!! It takes me about 1 minute to tie the bike in by myself, and about the same to get it out again.

Re: Tying Down Bike on Trailer advice.

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:11 pm
by SoundGuy
So where can we get these "tyre downs" cheap then ?

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Re: Tying Down Bike on Trailer advice.

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:14 pm
by SoundGuy
portaz wrote:
holly wrote:like the look of these
http://www.kyaracing.com.au/product.htm" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank
Nothing better than these... spend the money and get these, as they are piss easy to use, and dont damage anything...

Soundguy, what date you doing the island? Im booked in for the 26th...
Im booked in on the 19th mate :)

Re: Tying Down Bike on Trailer advice.

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:18 pm
by SoundGuy
Westinghouse wrote:I just got back last week from a trip to PI and back via EC and after 4180.1 kms with both tyres in channel, a tyre down, and a rok strap (flat ocky strap) holding down the front wheel, with no incident, i reckon the tyre down is well worth the money!! It takes me about 1 minute to tie the bike in by myself, and about the same to get it out again.
So if you use the tyre downs you only really need to stabilize the front with something..correct?

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Re: Tying Down Bike on Trailer advice.

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:55 pm
by portaz
not even stabalize it, just tie the rim to channel, so it doesnt bounce out of the channel if you go over a nice bump...

If you want to pick one up, peter stevens sells em...

Re: Tying Down Bike on Trailer advice.

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:08 pm
by aus636
The Kayaracing Tyre Tie Down is aweson easy to fit and holds the bike rock sold. The suspension on the bike still works as normal. Delivered it cost me $185 try this on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com.au/motorcycle-Tyre- ... dZViewItem" target="_blank or this one http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Tyre-Down_W0QQit ... dZViewItem" target="_blank its always the way when I was looking nothing.

Re: Tying Down Bike on Trailer advice.

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:13 pm
by SoundGuy
aus636 wrote:The Kayaracing Tyre Tie Down is aweson easy to fit and holds the bike rock sold. The suspension on the bike still works as normal. Delivered it cost me $185 try this on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com.au/motorcycle-Tyre- ... dZViewItem" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank or this one http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Tyre-Down_W0QQit ... dZViewItem" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank its always the way when I was looking nothing.
Cheers mate, im keeping my eye on the last one 8)

Hey they might have a stand at the Show in Sydney this weekend as well :)

Re: Tying Down Bike on Trailer advice.

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:33 pm
by Gosling1
For the price of 1 Tyre-down, I could knock you up about 6 sets of Wasteland tie-downs........they end up around $30 each for everything you need..........but the Tyre-downs look heaps nicer ! :lol:

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Re: Tying Down Bike on Trailer advice.

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:59 pm
by aus636
SoundGuy wrote:
aus636 wrote:The Kayaracing Tyre Tie Down is aweson easy to fit and holds the bike rock sold. The suspension on the bike still works as normal. Delivered it cost me $185 try this on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com.au/motorcycle-Tyre- ... dZViewItem" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank or this one http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Tyre-Down_W0QQit ... dZViewItem" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank its always the way when I was looking nothing.
Cheers mate, im keeping my eye on the last one 8)

Hey they might have a stand at the Show in Sydney this weekend as well :)
You live in Sydney so try this place they are on special and you might be able to save on the frieght http://www.motorcycletiedownpro.com/sit ... age/596953" target="_blank

Re: Tying Down Bike on Trailer advice.

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:55 pm
by SoundGuy
Thats great man,

Thanks :)