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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 6:25 pm
by Duane
mina,

I think you should patent the fk up!!!

Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 9:09 pm
by Gosling1
mrmina wrote:i think u should patent ur clever design mate
wish I could mate, its just turnbuckles and D-shackles - patents need to have some type of *originality* about the components ........plus last time I checked, its about 3 grand for a provisional patent :shock: :shock: :shock:

This may or may not surprise you, I have a patents application pack for a couple of other things (related to gardening of all things :shock: ), that would be a better bet.......

No copyright infringements here Froggy12, knock yourself out mate !! :lol:

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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 10:28 pm
by tape
Gos,

that is just so ingenious, so the next question for all to know is what other model bikes have the capability for this design?

Plz you other smartasses don't just tell me to look at the bike in the shed, it's info for all to know.

well done mate.

cheers

Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 10:59 pm
by Neka79
tape...look at the bike in the shed mate..... whatever that means??

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 10:40 am
by Poyda
Gos, nice work. I had a similar idea a little while ago when trying to tie down my barge (9), mongrel thing wouldnt stay still no matter how many strap you put on it. I had this thought but it was poo-poo'd by a so called friend, and now you've proven him wrong i'll be knockin one up for the new intermediate track barge.

Just wish you'd shown me this on sunday at EC

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 1:05 pm
by Gosling1
tape wrote:... so the next question for all to know is what other model bikes have the capability for this design? ...
thanks mate, I am not sure what other models this would suit, but anything with a hollow front axle could be a candidate.

I busted a drill bit when drilling the holes in the axle-'pin', it is pretty hard steel :shock: - so take care , you need a drill-press to do this at home.

I also looked at the swingarm pivot as a possible solution, but my box trailer does not have the frame for this to work properly. Normal bike trailers may be able to use the swingarm pivot and/or the rear axle, to achieve the same basic set-up. I think using the front axle is the *safest*.
Poyda wrote:....Just wish you'd shown me this on sunday at EC...
sorry mate, I had to wake up I-K to give him a look ( even though he was *very* comfortable in the back of a bike trailer in full leathers lying in the sun :shock: :lol: , I didn't think too much more about them after that, apart from showing Strika.

A set-up like this will hold your 9 easy - just make sure the welding on the big D-shackles is *spot-on*, as this is where all the stresses are concentrated. The welds must be 100%. The only other thing is when you get the axle-pin made up, it needs to be a nice snug fit inside the front axle, and not hang out too far either side of the wheel.

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Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 1:29 pm
by I-K
Gosling1 wrote:I also looked at the swingarm pivot as a possible solution, but my box trailer does not have the frame for this to work properly. Normal bike trailers may be able to use the swingarm pivot and/or the rear axle, to achieve the same basic set-up. I think using the front axle is the *safest*.
*nod*

I can't help thinking that if you tied the bike down by a sprung attachment point, like the swingarm pivot, using rigid tiedowns like these, something bad would have the potential to happen.

The way Gos has it set up, the Wasteland tiedowns keep the front wheel from turning left or right or from jumping around, and conventional tiedowns do likewise on the back. That's all that's needed. If the bike was held rigidly both front and back, you'd get varying stresses in the rigid tiedowns, because, as the bike bounces around on its suspension, the wheelbase changes by a few mm back and forth.

Being a graduate of the Sigmund Freud Institute of High Anxieties, I'd also do my usual trick of lashing the front brake on.
sorry mate, I had to wake up I-K to give him a look ( even though he was *very* comfortable in the back of a bike trailer in full leathers lying in the sun :shock: :lol:
Hey, you saw the company I was in.

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 1:39 pm
by Jonno
Mina had a group buy for clip-on straps some time ago that run across too each end of the clip ons which you then use tiedowns. I have it stowed away here somewhere..

Elaborate please Mina?

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 8:15 am
by mrmina
Jonno wrote:Mina had a group buy for clip-on straps some time ago that run across too each end of the clip ons which you then use tiedowns. I have it stowed away here somewhere..

Elaborate please Mina?
thats about all it does, doesn't sing, dance or give blowies, it just holds onto ur clipons and ties down using tie downs.

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 11:24 am
by Gosling1
I-K wrote:....Hey, you saw the company I was in.
:shock: yes I recall with immense clarity :lol: love10.gif love4.gif love5.gif new_shocked.gif tongue1.gif :heart: :heart:

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Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 11:40 am
by Lucas
Mate hope you spent a couple of extra dollars on the turnbuckles as a lot of the cheap ones have shitty threads and will pull the tread out with a bit of stress on them
but great idea mate i've got a strap that runs across my bars and the tie downs connect to that

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:05 pm
by zx793rr
Bike transporters use the same idea. Been around for a long time and probably is already patented. The only thing different is that they extend the brackets that hold the tyre all the way around the base so its a full 90 deg section. This allows you to push the bike in, get off, tie it down with no help. Steering will not twist if the clamp has been made the right size. How often do you want to do this when no one else is around.
There is a bike stand avaliable that you can bolt to your garage floor, push the front wheel in and it will pivot forward around a cam so the bike does not roll back out. I have seen these in the british mags (PB).

Hydraulic bike stands have the same arrangement up front but use an adjustable clamp for different tyre widths.

Tie downs around your handle bars, bike frame will only eventually blow your fork seals.

Re: Tie-downs - Wasteland Style !!

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 4:09 pm
by Cossie
Bump! :lol:


I'm looking at making one of these for my 08 '10.

Just wondering how they are going in the long term, or if anyone else has made a set or found any improvements or problems?

Does it not need an R-clip or anything through it to stop it sliding around or is the tension from the turnbuckles and the C channel enough?

Re: Tie-downs - Wasteland Style !!

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 4:43 pm
by Blurr
I saw Gos use this last Phillip Island trip and it looked fine. So I guess they have held the test of time

Re: Tie-downs - Wasteland Style !!

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 4:47 pm
by Plaz
He's a bit clever is our Gos