Fair and accurate assessment with no hidden bias on ZX6R

Shifty · Post by **Shifty** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 2:29 pm

The reason they released the RR is for people wanting to race in classes dictating a 600cc maximum.

Gosling1 · Post by **Gosling1** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 2:36 pm

Yeh I am aware of the capacity limits for the class, but if the 600 is a dedicated *race* bike, then surely it would be faster around a track than its *road* based cousin ???? or does 36cc make that much difference ??

seems a bit strange ??

Stereo · Post by **Stereo** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 2:40 pm

Gosling1 wrote:Yeh I am aware of the capacity limits for the class, but if the 600 is a dedicated *race* bike, then surely it would be faster around a track than its *road* based cousin ???? or does 36cc make that much difference ??

seems a bit strange ??

Ofcourse it makes a difference... You can get a 50cc bike to move pretty quickly... add that horsepower to a 600 and and you have to get more acceleration... it makes sense

Strika · Post by **Strika** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 3:37 pm

Gosling1 wrote:
Dan wrote:[... I hear you 12 boys are really good in straight lines and even better through the twisties
why thank's Dan,

So what is faster afterall, a *stock* 636 ZX-R or a *stock* 600 ZX-RR ??? I always thought that the track-only specials *must* have been better, otherwise there would seem little point in releasing 2 models ??

Got to add the supersport race kit parts to make em go fast. That applies to all the supersport runners. Dial cams, reface valve seats, set up cams on degree wheel, weight match parts (basic blue printing) Loosen tolerances, change pipes and ignitions/maps, plus full Ohlins or equivelent race suspension ($2500 just for the fork kit alone

), and remove all road gear and pare some weight. Thats why they are so fast.

Gosling1 · Post by **Gosling1** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 4:07 pm

thanks Strika - I guess then the answer to my question is that a *stock* 636 will be quicker around a track than a *stock* 600.

......hmmm, maybe I should try and get the shop hack 636 on the weekend, when I drop El Grande off for its 6k service........it couldn't hurt to actually flog one of these around the local scratchers paradise, then I can form 1/2 an opinion on them

Strika · Post by **Strika** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 4:11 pm

Not really a good idea Gosling. You may fall in lust with it and trade in the dinosaur

Cath · Post by **Cath** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 4:17 pm

StereoHead wrote:(although the 2001 636 equals my bike in acceleration, I didnt feel it was as good in the corners or braking)

Stereo, I think the 2001 ZX6R was a 600, not a 636 (mine certainly is). It was upped to the 636 for the 2002 model, from memory.

IMO, if you're looking at the ZX6, the '02 and the '05 are the better examples in the last five or six years, depending on which seating position/style you're after.

Gosling1 · Post by **Gosling1** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 4:43 pm

Strika wrote:Not really a good idea Gosling. You may fall in lust with it and trade in the dinosaur

that'll NEVER happen mate

but I would like to get an idea myself of what makes these *little* bikes so special........

*Note* - the term *little* is not intended to be derogatory or belittling in any way shape or form, and the views expressed by the author should really be discarded as the ravings of a drunken ageing Z900-loving sloth.

Strika · Post by **Strika** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 5:42 pm

No offence taken Gosling. They fcukin are little. In motor capacity and physical size. They are tiny little fcukers now. I am 5'11" and a litttle more experienced in life than some, and I need an hour of stretching to fold my self up on any of the modern 600s

Gosling1 · Post by **Gosling1** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 6:21 pm

Strika wrote:.... and a litttle more experienced in life than some,

you have the best descriptions for being an old fart that i have ever seen

you know, one of the quickest riders up at Wakefield last weekend was a bloke from Queanbeyan, who was riding his Malvern Star to the shops when Queen Elizabeth was coronated

Once you put those leathers and that lid on, age becomes an irrelevance. All that matters is that you retain the balls of an 18 yo

Strika · Post by **Strika** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 6:54 pm

Gosling1 wrote:
Strika wrote:.... and a litttle more experienced in life than some,
you have the best descriptions for being an old fart that i have ever seen

you know, one of the quickest riders up at Wakefield last weekend was a bloke from Queanbeyan, who was riding his Malvern Star to the shops when Queen Elizabeth was coronated

Once you put those leathers and that lid on, age becomes an irrelevance. All that matters is that you retain the balls of an 18 yo

Yeah Crap Gosling! You get out on the grid amongst all the younger riders and fcuk me are they keen to make sure they greet the flag before the old fart on the old ZX6

Gosling1 · Post by **Gosling1** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 9:02 pm

Give it the berries mate !! I tell you what, its all those years of *experience* that make us *more mature* riders as quick as we are.........

Strika · Post by **Strika** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 9:04 pm

Gosling1 wrote: Give it the berries mate !! I tell you what, its all those years of *experience* that make us *more mature* riders as quick as we are.........

errr I am not as quick as I used to think I was Gosling

But the older I get..........the faster I was etc etc etc.,

Blue14 · Post by **Blue14** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 9:35 pm

Dan wrote:
blue12 wrote:600 hey !! so wheres the rest of the engine???
For you and Recycled, they hid the other half of the engine... I hear you 12 boys are only good in straight lines anyway

*runs and hides*

Hey you been watching me ride??

Stereo · Post by **Stereo** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 9:44 pm

Cath wrote: IMO, if you're looking at the ZX6, the '02 and the '05 are the better examples in the last five or six years, depending on which seating position/style you're after.

I'm not talking to you...