Autism
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Re: Autism
this happened to my 2nd best friend, and is a complication of measles -
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1 in 100,000 is not all that uncommon, and its not pretty.
*Subacute sclerosing panencephalitis (SSPE)*
1 in 100,000 is not all that uncommon, and its not pretty.
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Re: Autism
Hi.Mate i know its not autism but my 12 and 15 yr old have ADHD PRETTY bad since diagnosed 6 yrs ago and its been a long hard battle with their behavior problems but all you can do is what you have been doing with your young fellow,spend plentiful time with him,keep trying different foods [which i believe contributes to 60% of problems in kids know days] keep up the research and most of all show him as much love as can.Anyway all the best with your young fellow and your family and dont give up on him because every little improvment he makes you can bet your bottom dollar you helped make that improvment happen by your commitments towards him.Cheers
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Re: Autism
Haven't they already proved that the preservatives in foods are the main cause of behavioural proplems in kid's?
I saw a Doco a couple of year's ago in which they had a "lost cause" kid as far as behaviour went, they put him on a healthy diet
ie: meat and vege's with no icecream, chips, softdrinks etc and the change in him was nothing short of amazing.
He was so calm and polite, his parents sat crying ffs!
When I had chemo I was given a list of stuff to avoid, top of the list was cigarettes
second was anything with fake sugar
and not far from the top was anything with a preservative commonly used in potato chips
(alcohol wasn't on there at all
)
So they know that this crap is dangerous but I think it's a case of "the problem is just tooooooo BIG"
Cheer's and Happy New Year to all
I saw a Doco a couple of year's ago in which they had a "lost cause" kid as far as behaviour went, they put him on a healthy diet
ie: meat and vege's with no icecream, chips, softdrinks etc and the change in him was nothing short of amazing.
He was so calm and polite, his parents sat crying ffs!
When I had chemo I was given a list of stuff to avoid, top of the list was cigarettes

second was anything with fake sugar



So they know that this crap is dangerous but I think it's a case of "the problem is just tooooooo BIG"
Cheer's and Happy New Year to all

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Re: Autism
yep correct they have proven it but in all honestly how many doctors or pedeotrisions actually recomend giving them different foods to help there symptons,its usually a dietision or a natural path that would reccomend this.happy new year to youseiko1 wrote:Haven't they already proved that the preservatives in foods are the main cause of behavioural proplems in kid's?
I saw a Doco a couple of year's ago in which they had a "lost cause" kid as far as behaviour went, they put him on a healthy diet
ie: meat and vege's with no icecream, chips, softdrinks etc and the change in him was nothing short of amazing.
He was so calm and polite, his parents sat crying ffs!
When I had chemo I was given a list of stuff to avoid, top of the list was cigarettes![]()
second was anything with fake sugarand not far from the top was anything with a preservative commonly used in potato chips
(alcohol wasn't on there at all
)
So they know that this crap is dangerous but I think it's a case of "the problem is just tooooooo BIG"
Cheer's and Happy New Year to all

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Re: Autism
There's no money for Doctors in diets....but shitloads of kickbacks in the drugs they fucken push 

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Re: Autism
'Proven'. Is a pretty dodgy word to the scientific community. Just because something gets published, (or worse, on the telly), doesn't mean it's proven. Unfortunetely dietary stuff is near impossible to prove one way or the other. It really is quite close to magic. But diet definetely does affect the brain in some far out and wacky ways. It's not that preservatives are evil (many of them are natural chemicals, many of them isolated from plants, etc. Not from a lab). It's just that every person has a different sensitivity to them. Safest option is to have a diet primarily consisting of fruit and veg with carbs and a little bit of meat. once or twice a week with preference given to white meat. May not actually make any difference, or it might make the world of difference. I have a colleague who spent 20 years in a mental hospital and drugs did nothing. Now he is on a vegan diet and drug free and perfectly healthy. So much so that he's currently doing a PhD in biochemistry. (yes, on the reason why the diet helped him so much).
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Re: Autism
Never a truer word spoken.seiko1 wrote:There's no money for Doctors in diets....but shitloads of kickbacks in the drugs they fucken push
I chatted to Yae new years, ive just finished some work related study on Autism. Autism and the way it presents itself are as unique as fingerprints, so therefore management techniques will differ from person to person.
There are generalisations, but a holistic approach (in my opinion) is certainly the way to go.
May i also say you guys and your immediate and extended family are awesome both in your attitudes and strength. Dont forget yourselves either. I am aware of how hard it can be. There is a lot of support out there for you so lean hard

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Ask the guy's I ride with...I don't lean well at all 

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Stubborn Assseiko1 wrote:Ask the guy's I ride with...I don't lean well at all

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In regards to the earlier part of this thread, I did a little research into vaccines vs autism. Medical researchers have come to the conclusion that there is not a link between the two. Seiko, I feel for you. A close friend has a son (now 16) with Aspergers. Whilst my friend researched extensively and implemented therapeutical behaviours and diet, is was a long, hard, frustrating battle to get him to where he is today. I wish you the best in your interactions with your boy.
I tried to upload this articles, and the referenced articles, but a .pdf extension is not allowed to be uploaded.
"Contrary evidence to Wakefield et al.'s (1998) findings emerged. Fomhonne and Chakrabarti (2001) studied three groups of children in the United Kingdom;
• A group of 98 children with autism, diagnosed prior to receiving the MMR vaccine.
• A group of 96 children with PDD-NOS (recall that this diagnosis contains features similar to autism) who received the MMR vaccine at a mean age of 13.5 months.
• A group of 68 children diagnosed with regressive autism after being vaccinated for MMR.
The researchers hypothesized that the average age when autistic symptoms were noted would be close to the age of vaccination (12 months). However, no significant difference was found
in the mean age of first parental recognition oí autistic symptoms between the two samples who had received the MMR vaccine (19.3 months and 19.2 months) and the group diagnosed
prior to receiving the vaccine ( 19.5 months) (Fombonne &. Chakrabarti, 2001). Thus, parents did not recognize regressive autistic symptoms closer to the age of first vaccination
that might have revealed an association between ASDs and the MMR vaccine.
In other parts of the world, researchers also sought answers. In the United States, epidemiologists compared the increasing rates of immunizations with the rising rates of ASDs using
statistics from the California Department of Health (Dales, Hammer, & Smith, 2001). Dales et al. (2001) found that there was a large sustained increase in the numbers of autism
cases, rising from 44 cases per 100,000 live births in 1980 to 208 cases per 100,000 in 1994, a 373% relative increase. The rate of increase of vaccinations was much smaller: There was
only a 10% rise during the same period, leading the investigators to conclude that no relationship existed between the MMR vaccine and autism.
In 2006, Canadian researchers reviewed the literature regarding autism and vaccines and concluded that the overwhelming majority of studies showed no causal association
between the MMR vaccine and autism (Doja & Roberts, 2006). They also noted that although the vaccine preservative thimerosal was suggested as the culprit, there was no evidence
in the literature to support the relationship. Doja and Roberts (2006) warned of the threat of MMR outbreaks should parents decide not to vaccinate.
McGuinness, T., & Lewis, S. (2010). Update on autism and vaccines. Journal of Psychosocial Nursing & Mental Health Services, 48(6), 15-18. doi:10.3928/02793695-20100506-02
I tried to upload this articles, and the referenced articles, but a .pdf extension is not allowed to be uploaded.
"Contrary evidence to Wakefield et al.'s (1998) findings emerged. Fomhonne and Chakrabarti (2001) studied three groups of children in the United Kingdom;
• A group of 98 children with autism, diagnosed prior to receiving the MMR vaccine.
• A group of 96 children with PDD-NOS (recall that this diagnosis contains features similar to autism) who received the MMR vaccine at a mean age of 13.5 months.
• A group of 68 children diagnosed with regressive autism after being vaccinated for MMR.
The researchers hypothesized that the average age when autistic symptoms were noted would be close to the age of vaccination (12 months). However, no significant difference was found
in the mean age of first parental recognition oí autistic symptoms between the two samples who had received the MMR vaccine (19.3 months and 19.2 months) and the group diagnosed
prior to receiving the vaccine ( 19.5 months) (Fombonne &. Chakrabarti, 2001). Thus, parents did not recognize regressive autistic symptoms closer to the age of first vaccination
that might have revealed an association between ASDs and the MMR vaccine.
In other parts of the world, researchers also sought answers. In the United States, epidemiologists compared the increasing rates of immunizations with the rising rates of ASDs using
statistics from the California Department of Health (Dales, Hammer, & Smith, 2001). Dales et al. (2001) found that there was a large sustained increase in the numbers of autism
cases, rising from 44 cases per 100,000 live births in 1980 to 208 cases per 100,000 in 1994, a 373% relative increase. The rate of increase of vaccinations was much smaller: There was
only a 10% rise during the same period, leading the investigators to conclude that no relationship existed between the MMR vaccine and autism.
In 2006, Canadian researchers reviewed the literature regarding autism and vaccines and concluded that the overwhelming majority of studies showed no causal association
between the MMR vaccine and autism (Doja & Roberts, 2006). They also noted that although the vaccine preservative thimerosal was suggested as the culprit, there was no evidence
in the literature to support the relationship. Doja and Roberts (2006) warned of the threat of MMR outbreaks should parents decide not to vaccinate.
McGuinness, T., & Lewis, S. (2010). Update on autism and vaccines. Journal of Psychosocial Nursing & Mental Health Services, 48(6), 15-18. doi:10.3928/02793695-20100506-02
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Re: Autism
The senior researcher that studied between links of autism and MMR vaccination was proved to be fraudantly documented he was paid for his reasearch and has since admitted this. Autism is a nice word doctors like to state if your child does not fit in the box..
Does your child stack colours in order and obsessed with colour such as all blocks in a line or obsessed with football scores etc. There are other reasons while children don't talk hearing is one of them and dyspraxia along with attention deficit . Jessica our daughter did the same at one years old started to pronounce mum and dad at age three still had delayed speech and hardly talking going to speech therapy really helped it was there she was diagnosed with dyspraxia . This can be associated from an upper brain injury from birth or delay in motor speech unable to complete full words lacking the ability to join she also over compensated by not talking at creche becoming a helper grabbing other kids bags for them when going home and overcompensating for not speaking . We did not medicate her but continued social interaction and lots of speech therapy she was aldo diagnosed with adhd and now cant shut her up, now at 14 she likes to be very loud and overbearing we still have problems with her behaviour sometimes and not stopping annoying people can be one of them .At age 5 her speach was unintelligable that we delayed school by six months to get her assessed by the Royal Children Hospital in Melbourne once you have a diagnosis in writing from specialists you are entitled to more funding and was able to obtain an integration aide throughout most of primary school most places wont see kids until at least 3.5 years unless they have a stutter We found keeping her intow and not allowing her to run amuck helped in controlling her anger and making her concentrate more on the important things and lots of love There is lots of help available on autism and aspbergers ( a form of autism) through there websites . Lots os children with autism do not want to or don;t know how to socially interact if you can afford it put him in kinder/ child care a couple of days a week when he sees other children and remmber they learn from an early age it might be beneficial. A lot of children with autism lack the ability to interact and speek at all some resort to sign language best to get a second opinion and make sure that the anger component cannot be dealt with as I said drs like to tag kids with labels and autism is a nice one when your kid does not fit in the box ...
Does your child stack colours in order and obsessed with colour such as all blocks in a line or obsessed with football scores etc. There are other reasons while children don't talk hearing is one of them and dyspraxia along with attention deficit . Jessica our daughter did the same at one years old started to pronounce mum and dad at age three still had delayed speech and hardly talking going to speech therapy really helped it was there she was diagnosed with dyspraxia . This can be associated from an upper brain injury from birth or delay in motor speech unable to complete full words lacking the ability to join she also over compensated by not talking at creche becoming a helper grabbing other kids bags for them when going home and overcompensating for not speaking . We did not medicate her but continued social interaction and lots of speech therapy she was aldo diagnosed with adhd and now cant shut her up, now at 14 she likes to be very loud and overbearing we still have problems with her behaviour sometimes and not stopping annoying people can be one of them .At age 5 her speach was unintelligable that we delayed school by six months to get her assessed by the Royal Children Hospital in Melbourne once you have a diagnosis in writing from specialists you are entitled to more funding and was able to obtain an integration aide throughout most of primary school most places wont see kids until at least 3.5 years unless they have a stutter We found keeping her intow and not allowing her to run amuck helped in controlling her anger and making her concentrate more on the important things and lots of love There is lots of help available on autism and aspbergers ( a form of autism) through there websites . Lots os children with autism do not want to or don;t know how to socially interact if you can afford it put him in kinder/ child care a couple of days a week when he sees other children and remmber they learn from an early age it might be beneficial. A lot of children with autism lack the ability to interact and speek at all some resort to sign language best to get a second opinion and make sure that the anger component cannot be dealt with as I said drs like to tag kids with labels and autism is a nice one when your kid does not fit in the box ...
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He goes to a fantastic kindy, the teachers there are really second to none.
He still can't string a sentence but can say the whole Alphabet and can write words and.....web addresses
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he writes and spells out www.ksrc-au.com
He can say Mum and Dad and Plas and Jason and Jonno and Mikey and Daina and Terry and Daniel and can ask for a drink (of beer
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For the most part he is very well behaved but occasionally bites his bigger brother,
he certainly has his routines and if broken.....get out of the friggin way
Coming along nicely and every day surprises us in one way or another, I got a big cuddle and a back patting yesterday
while he sang the songs on his speak and spell
He still can't string a sentence but can say the whole Alphabet and can write words and.....web addresses

he writes and spells out www.ksrc-au.com

He can say Mum and Dad and Plas and Jason and Jonno and Mikey and Daina and Terry and Daniel and can ask for a drink (of beer

For the most part he is very well behaved but occasionally bites his bigger brother,
he certainly has his routines and if broken.....get out of the friggin way

Coming along nicely and every day surprises us in one way or another, I got a big cuddle and a back patting yesterday
while he sang the songs on his speak and spell

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Re: Autism
I am glad your little one is doing better. With your positive attitude I would expect nothing less. Best wishes.
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HAving a son with Autism also ,we found diet was very important,removed gluten,milk products also!
We also gave him b12 Shots <which did wonders!
AND yes it all started after his first needles!!!!!!!!!!
We also gave him b12 Shots <which did wonders!
AND yes it all started after his first needles!!!!!!!!!!
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Thankyou!R-shippy wrote:HAving a son with Autism also ,we found diet was very important,removed gluten,milk products also!
We also gave him b12 Shots <which did wonders!
AND yes it all started after his first needles!!!!!!!!!!

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