Pinched the link from another forum, but good read.
http://www.aitpm.org.au/d6/Speed%20Essay%20JJ.pdf
Interesting paper on Speed Zones in Australia
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Interesting paper on Speed Zones in Australia
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Re: Interesting paper on Speed Zones in Australia
Interesting I spose, I'm unsure of the audience going by his language and a couple of typos. Just having a rant?
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Re: Interesting paper on Speed Zones in Australia
mmm yes some interesting details & possible facts but he wants to talk about "wasteful"...... its spending time writing an article that is useless as it wont make one ounce of difference 

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Re: Interesting paper on Speed Zones in Australia
More to the point - it's more about wrapping the masses in cotton wool than anything else.
Fark K.E., we all have somewhere to be and want to get there in the shortest time possible. This smacks of "speed is the cause of the accident, because if you were not moving you would not have had an accident. Sure slow all cars to 6kph, make all pedistrains walk at 1kph - why not tie down toddlers so they can't fall over learning to walk.
How about forcing developers to design estates where arterial roads do not have house frontages, where schools are off the main roads and have off road parking for drop off/pick up (Or force schools to teach kids to safely cross a road). Maybe make bus stops that are off the main carriageway. How about freeways that don't have lane drop off bottle-necks or major roads joining 200m before a major exit. Perhaps existing figures could be calculated taking into account modern braking and tyre abilities.
And don't get me started on the driving tuition standards...
The more draconian you make the rules, the more the masses rebel.
And as I write this, my random music plays Motorhead, Speedfreak
Fark K.E., we all have somewhere to be and want to get there in the shortest time possible. This smacks of "speed is the cause of the accident, because if you were not moving you would not have had an accident. Sure slow all cars to 6kph, make all pedistrains walk at 1kph - why not tie down toddlers so they can't fall over learning to walk.
How about forcing developers to design estates where arterial roads do not have house frontages, where schools are off the main roads and have off road parking for drop off/pick up (Or force schools to teach kids to safely cross a road). Maybe make bus stops that are off the main carriageway. How about freeways that don't have lane drop off bottle-necks or major roads joining 200m before a major exit. Perhaps existing figures could be calculated taking into account modern braking and tyre abilities.
And don't get me started on the driving tuition standards...
The more draconian you make the rules, the more the masses rebel.
And as I write this, my random music plays Motorhead, Speedfreak

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Re: Interesting paper on Speed Zones in Australia
Bike and Car Race riders/drivers have accidents at speeds never seen on the road and survive or walk away with minimal injury..... These so called experts keep comming up with the same shit about speed killing........... Speed dosen't kill, The wrong speed, at the wrong time, in the wrong environment kills..... There are many other factors involved in incidents and speed is only a very small part of the big picture...........
We would have to park everything and walk everywhere to avoid incidents...........
Typical Government paid propaganda from a so called expert..............

We would have to park everything and walk everywhere to avoid incidents...........
Typical Government paid propaganda from a so called expert..............



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Re: Interesting paper on Speed Zones in Australia
+1smithy5 wrote:Bike and Car Race riders/drivers have accidents at speeds never seen on the road and survive or walk away with minimal injury..... These so called experts keep comming up with the same shit about speed killing........... Speed dosen't kill, The wrong speed, at the wrong time, in the wrong environment kills..... There are many other factors involved in incidents and speed is only a very small part of the big picture...........

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Re: Interesting paper on Speed Zones in Australia
smithy5 wrote:Bike and Car Race riders/drivers have accidents at speeds never seen on the road and survive or walk away with minimal injury
The average road car does not have a tried and tested / CAD designed moly steel roll cage including side and roof intrusion protection nor equipped with a 6 point harness and body containing racing seat . In addition to the best available Nomex or equiv plus race suits , neck brace , squillion dollar lids etc,etc....
Absolutely right ... speed DOES NOT KILL ... what the fuck are the pollies and coppers trying to pull???..... These so called experts keep comming up with the same shit about speed killing........... Speed dosen't kill, The wrong speed, at the wrong time, in the wrong environment kills..... There are many other factors involved in incidents and speed is only a very small part of the big picture...........
We all know it's THE SUDDEN FUCKING STOP that kinda tickles!?


Basically , I am not an advocate for rediculously low speed limits ... to the point I reckon on many of our WA roads an open road S/L of 130 or 140km would save a lot of fatigue related road fatalities rather than 100-110km.We would have to park everything and walk everywhere to avoid incidents...........
Typical Government paid propaganda from a so called expert..............![]()
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As an ex country towie who covered approx 700sq km , the amount of fatigue related fatalities/accidents FAR outweighed the speed related road deaths in my area. And no it isn't very pleasant being first on scene in either event as I'm sure a few here could well testify.
Bear in mind I also ride a 10.... do you reckon I'm always on the speed limit?????? - just being devil's advocate , a good argument is a well founded , factual one


Food for thought is all


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