19 Years, 8 months and 11 days later...

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Re: 19 Years, 8 months and 11 days later...

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I'm really sorry to hear this Mick as I do know what its like. sort of...
Not quite the same as you but I found out about my misses being involved with a guy she worked with on our 5th wedding anniversary.. We had been together for about 7 or 8 years and I didn't take it too well, I think the shock was the worse thing, as I had no idea. I was doing a lot of travelling with work at the time..

Anyway, its all an opportunity to move on and do better things with your life.
I certainly did and now look back and say, thank god that happened or I wouldn't have married Jus and have 2 great kids...

Good luck, and get to the GP... :-)
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Re: 19 Years, 8 months and 11 days later...

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MadKaw wrote:Good luck, and get to the GP... :-)
Probably won't be able to make the GP this year, but next is going to be a distinct possibility.

I had a strange experience yesterday where I had quite a good conversation with Ros' girlfriend and her daughter at my daughter's indoor soccer grand-final (which they won 6-3 with Emma scoring the last goal). Not only were they and Ros surprised I didn't rip them a new one, Ros and her friend were happy that we're all interacting in a positive manner.

I took Emma home and Ros dropped the boys off afterward the last two games and presentations were over. I asked why didn't she just move out into her girlfriend's place, as she was spending 99% of her time over there anyway. It was like it was something she was waiting for, she was just concerned that there wasn't enough room in the girlfriend's flat to fit all her stuff in. Once I said she could leave it here as long as she likes until she was settled she was fine and is now going. I asked her if she was happy and she said she was, and for some reason this was a great weight off my mind and I've been on an upper all day.

So I guess the moral of the story is you can make someone happy by letting them go 8).

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Re: 19 Years, 8 months and 11 days later...

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Ratmick wrote:So I guess the moral of the story is you can make someone happy by letting them go 8).

Mick
yea...ive heard that mina has that affect with most women he :P shags....

glad ur ok mate...seem to be pretty positive... if nothing else, its kinda exciting i guess?? kinda like a holiday.... the fun is all abt the chase anyway!!

good luck mate...
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Sorry to hear mate but its sounds like you're coping and dealing with it really well. All the best mate :D
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Wow you practice Zen or something ? Anyway I see that you prioritise the kids above ALL and that is very honourable.
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Re: 19 Years, 8 months and 11 days later...

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Good on you Mick for being so positive about this.

I'm a firm believer in great things coming from a situation that starts out horrid and you just never know what's around the corner.

If I hadn't ended the trauma that I was living with 7 years ago, I'd never have the wonderful life that I'm having now - bike and license included :P
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Re: 19 Years, 8 months and 11 days later...

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Sorry to hear about this Mick. Good on you for having the balls to share all this with the crew. Yes it sounds like you're taking the right path to start with, but its a long hard road ahead. Keep your friends close. They will have a perspective on life that you don't want to hear but you need to. You can't be told how to live the next 12 months, but the ones who are close to you will try and give you that perspective that you can only see from the outside.

The first trick is to eat, breathe and sleep. The 3 simplest things are the hardest to do. You just stop eating properly, and start skipping meals because you can't be bothered cooking. You take shallow breaths because the stomach is in knots and it hurts like shit to breathe deeply. Sleep, well you stay up stewing all night and end up collapsing exhausted late at night because you didn't sleep well the night before either.

If you don't master those three things your work suffers. You can't focus on anything, and your concentration is shot. You end up snapping at everyone and there are times when you just find a spare office close the door and burst into tears. You lose weight, which initially sounds like a good thing, but you end up grinding your body down until you get sick. You get hit by the first flu that comes around and it hits hard.

Exercise helps. Long walks burn off all that adrenaline that is tying up your stomach, and helps you sleep at night.

Keep track of your money. Dating is expensive.

Letting them go is the hardest thing to do. Not thinking about them every day, chewing yourself up over "what ifs", attributing blame, rationalising everything to no result. Dating everything with a pulse keeps you busy, but its only time and distance that brings the peace. I lost Jen on January 12th this year. I'm sure I'll be over her soon, but I've been saying that for 6 months!

Look after yourself and your kids. The rest will fall into place, but it does take time. A long time. Take care mate.
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Mojo67 wrote: Keep track of your money. Dating is expensive.
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Those three things, i can agree about them. I was in a farked relationship 6-8 years ago, i was in a bit of a downward spiral and that was hile i was with her. It was screwed up afterwards, but it began the healing process which took a while, but i lived, i learned, and i got a shitload stronger for it.
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Re: 19 Years, 8 months and 11 days later...

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Smitty wrote:
Mojo67 wrote: Keep track of your money. Dating is expensive.
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ah Mojo
such words of wisdom ;)


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yea.. i hear hookers are cheaper!! :P
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javaman wrote:Wow you practice Zen or something ? Anyway I see that you prioritise the kids above ALL and that is very honourable.
No Zen. The way I see it you have responsibility when bringing children into the world to equip them emotionally with the skills they need to have to make their own way in the world. In my case it's stuff like respect yourself, respect other people, respect your own and other people's property. I suppose along with that is that yes, major conflicts can be solved amicably and peacefully without overt anger or violence.

I think it's working, the kids have taken to the Dad-only regime really well, while (except for Ros having the odd tiff with our eldest Matthew) they are still respecting Ros and her choice of lifestyle. I have no homophobic, race, colour or other ethnic issues, and I'm glad to say the kids haven't either. I'm expecting in time as they get into their teenage years they'll form their own opinions and value system, I just hope I've given them a good foundation 8).

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Mojo67 wrote:Sorry to hear about this Mick. Good on you for having the balls to share all this with the crew. Yes it sounds like you're taking the right path to start with, but its a long hard road ahead. Keep your friends close. They will have a perspective on life that you don't want to hear but you need to. You can't be told how to live the next 12 months, but the ones who are close to you will try and give you that perspective that you can only see from the outside.

The first trick is to eat, breathe and sleep. The 3 simplest things are the hardest to do. You just stop eating properly, and start skipping meals because you can't be bothered cooking. You take shallow breaths because the stomach is in knots and it hurts like shit to breathe deeply. Sleep, well you stay up stewing all night and end up collapsing exhausted late at night because you didn't sleep well the night before either.

If you don't master those three things your work suffers. You can't focus on anything, and your concentration is shot. You end up snapping at everyone and there are times when you just find a spare office close the door and burst into tears. You lose weight, which initially sounds like a good thing, but you end up grinding your body down until you get sick. You get hit by the first flu that comes around and it hits hard.

Exercise helps. Long walks burn off all that adrenaline that is tying up your stomach, and helps you sleep at night.

Keep track of your money. Dating is expensive.

Letting them go is the hardest thing to do. Not thinking about them every day, chewing yourself up over "what ifs", attributing blame, rationalising everything to no result. Dating everything with a pulse keeps you busy, but its only time and distance that brings the peace. I lost Jen on January 12th this year. I'm sure I'll be over her soon, but I've been saying that for 6 months!

Look after yourself and your kids. The rest will fall into place, but it does take time. A long time. Take care mate.
Thanks Dave, sounds like you've done it hard mate...I feel for you.

Don't get me wrong, Ros has done this sort of thing before and although it was forgiven, she never really committed to trying to stay together. She stopped wearing her wedding ring a couple of years ago, and I knew when this new relationship started off about six months ago that it was only a matter of time. By this time I had gotten so used to her half-truths, long silences and mis-directions that I was prepared and my head was sorted...which is probably why it appears I am taking it so well.

I appear to be taking it so well because I am. I have had no part in her decision, we had no part in the decision, the decision was all hers and we could have done nothing to stop it happening. No blame to attribute really...I can't offer something which I'm not mentally or physically equipped to offer, and I probably can't even understand it :?.

In fact now it has happened we can all move on. I sleep like a log, I've lost 15-odd kg with exercise and changing my diet. I have robust self-esteem, supportive and loving parents, great friends (including you guys, otherwise I wouldn't have told you) and three great children. I have a top job with an understanding and supportive boss, and have just been promoted. I have enough flexibility in my work to get to the gym 5 times a week. I'm eating better than I have done for a while, because it's now me that cooks, and no-one else. I do my own washing and ironing and I know where it is...which may not sound like much, but she was never very organised, whereas I am.

Thanks everyone, you've all been great 8)

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Re: 19 Years, 8 months and 11 days later...

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good on ya mick... my respect for u has risen drastically over the last week or so...i always knew u were a good-hearted funny bastard, but this is way beyond....

haha i hate disorganisation too!!..it shits me when i cant find things...

and good work on the gym/diet thing..amazing how much better u feel, and better u sleep when u eat healthy and excersise..and again, more good traits hopefully the kids will pick up on...


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Re: 19 Years, 8 months and 11 days later...

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I know you know .... yeah, yeah yeah everybody knows ...
dont take the bike out when you are agitated about stuff
angry
too distracted about it all

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Re: 19 Years, 8 months and 11 days later...

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gigksrc wrote:I know you know .... yeah, yeah yeah everybody knows ...
dont take the bike out when you are agitated about stuff
angry too distracted about it all
:D
Thanks, but it's ok as I'm not angry :).

Bike time is good Mick-time, I've ridden more and enjoyed it more since she left as I don't have the lingering guilt she used to make me feel for enjoying myself 8).

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