How come we don't get this stuff?

Aussie Ninja · Post by **Aussie Ninja** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 3:44 pm

Kawasaki accessories
http://www.kawasaki.co.uk/category.asp? ... C55B&CGA=1

swabio-ACT · Post by **swabio-ACT** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 5:59 pm

because we suc k

BladeBoy · Post by **BladeBoy** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 6:27 pm

Dealers do anyway

ttc · Post by **ttc** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 6:32 pm

Not necessarily Mark, a lot of the stuff listed on overseas official sites is just not available to us through Kawasaki Australia.

Plaz · Post by **Plaz** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 7:30 pm

Hmmmm my mum has just lobbed in the UK, and she wanted to know what to bring me back

BladeBoy · Post by **BladeBoy** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 9:06 pm

tanyathecheeky wrote:Not necessarily Mark, a lot of the stuff listed on overseas official sites is just not available to us through Kawasaki Australia.

I take your point Tanya, I ment Kawasaki Australia, although the dealers could get vocal about it, get off the bums and apply some pressure

I-K · Post by **I-K** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 9:38 pm

BladeBoy wrote:...the dealers could get vocal about it, get off the bums and apply some pressure

At my local Kwaka dealer, they have a D&D full system for a C-model ZX9 hanging from the ceiling; $650, and no takers.

Looking around the shop some more turns up a carbon fibre tank protector and a carbon fibre rear hugger for a ZXR750, a Bagster for a ZX7 and a couple of other odds and sods.

A couple of months ago, I scored a full Yoshi RS-3 system in stainless for my ZX9 on Ebay; $400. The seller was Sydney City Motorcycles in Kogarah, and the system was (and remains; it's still only just hanging from my roof) brand-spankers. Never had hot gases pumped through it, so the price sticker, reading $1,495.00 still remains inside the muffler outlet. They would've taken a bath to the tune of some $500 on that exhaust system.

What the above ahows, and I'm pretty sure Tanya will back me up on this, is that with the Aussie motorcycling culture being what it is, a local dealer (or distributor, for that matter) stocking expensive go-fast or look-good parts means having someplace exquisite for dust to settle on because everyone who comes through the shop is going to be either too pragmatic or just too plain tight to buy it. Bringing in a $700 carbon bellypan or a $350 carbon front guard just to have it sit on the shelf wouldn't make business sense. Anyone who actually wants one will just bring it in from the US for far cheaper and with a lot less lead time than would be possible if the part had to come through the local distribution network.

In short, that segment of the market, the local industry just lets through to the keeper because the economies of scale aren't in it.

Neka79 · Post by **Neka79** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 9:52 pm

I-K wrote:
BladeBoy wrote:...the dealers could get vocal about it, get off the bums and apply some pressure
At my local Kwaka dealer, they have a D&D full system for a C-model ZX9 hanging from the ceiling; $650, and no takers.

Looking around the shop some more turns up a carbon fibre tank protector and a carbon fibre rear hugger for a ZXR750, a Bagster for a ZX7 and a couple of other odds and sods.

A couple of months ago, I scored a full Yoshi RS-3 system in stainless for my ZX9 on Ebay; $400. The seller was Sydney City Motorcycles in Kogarah, and the system was (and remains; it's still only just hanging from my roof) brand-spankers. Never had hot gases pumped through it, so the price sticker, reading $1,495.00 still remains inside the muffler outlet. They would've taken a bath to the tune of some $500 on that exhaust system.

What the above ahows, and I'm pretty sure Tanya will back me up on this, is that with the Aussie motorcycling culture being what it is, a local dealer (or distributor, for that matter) stocking expensive go-fast or look-good parts means having someplace exquisite for dust to settle on because everyone who comes through the shop is going to be either too pragmatic or just too plain tight to buy it. Bringing in a $700 carbon bellypan or a $350 carbon front guard just to have it sit on the shelf wouldn't make business sense. Anyone who actually wants one will just bring it in from the US for far cheaper and with a lot less lead time than would be possible if the part had to come through the local distribution network.

In short, that segment of the market, the local industry just lets through to the keeper because the economies of scale aren't in it.

yup..i think ur right IK.....seems most tossers on R1's spend plenty of $$ blinging them....whereas most kwaka riders tend to just ride em??

ttc · Post by **ttc** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 7:09 am

Exactly I-K

And we get knobs who believe that just because something is available we should have it in stock. The economics just aren't there. It's a lot more viable to have in stock items that sell, not parts that not many people want and we have to talk them into buying anyway

BladeBoy · Post by **BladeBoy** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 7:12 am

so the price sticker, reading $1,495.00 still remains inside the muffler outlet. They would've taken a bath to the tune of some $500 on that exhaust system.

Yes a bit pricey, do the bits have to be that expensive? people will buy extra stuff if the price break is right, if the goodies can be imported by the bike buyer at the right price why not the dealers, lets face it bike buyer will buy go fast or bling bits for there ride if the price is right, concidering the increase in bike sales, I think it is quantity is the key. I saw a after market complete system for a Kawasaki ZX9 hanging on the roof also, it was over priced as well and there for years same thing, instead of Googling for stuff buying sight unseen from the US, would it not be better to stroll into you nearest dealer and make a selection?

ttc · Post by **ttc** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 7:36 am

It doesn't work that way

Where individuals can buy stuff overseas we simply can't.

We have to buy it through the local distributors or the brands involved can ban us from dealing with them. So our hands are tied. (i think there's legal stuff involved too - not quite sure)

So therefore we have the item, distributors markups, then ours. Its an urban myth that bike shops make a lot of money out of items.. some stuff like alpinestars, it would be cheaper for me to import myself than pay staff prices through work, and staff is cost plus 10%.

And then ppl walk in and demand a discount.. try telling kmart that

Neka79 · Post by **Neka79** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 4:37 pm

tanyathecheeky wrote: And then ppl walk in and demand a discount.. try telling kmart that

mate i get that all the time....

or they order say a $3k heater...so we get it in for em, hold it a week or 2 til there ready for it..then they want to cancel & get a refund!!...and when we tell em theres a 10% re-stocking fee they get the shits up....

or they buy a heater off us...go sumwhere else & its $20 cheaper..and ring us and complain.....we didnt kno our competitors were
a.cheaper
b.gunna offer em $20 less than they paid, just to piss em off.

or they buy said heater, and come in 3 months later,said heater is on special & $50 less, and they whinge & moan....

ppl are assholes...8 yrs of retail has told me this...

BladeBoy · Post by **BladeBoy** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 7:28 pm

tanyathecheeky wrote:It doesn't work that way

Where individuals can buy stuff overseas we simply can't.

We have to buy it through the local distributors or the brands involved can ban us from dealing with them. So our hands are tied. (i think there's legal stuff involved too - not quite sure)

So therefore we have the item, distributors markups, then ours. Its an urban myth that bike shops make a lot of money out of items.. some stuff like alpinestars, it would be cheaper for me to import myself than pay staff prices through work, and staff is cost plus 10%.

And then ppl walk in and demand a discount.. try telling kmart that

I would work that way IF they were any good at marketing, it works for everybody else in business in Australia, what makes bike dealers/distributors any different/special?

Just look at the majority of loosers you and other people here have to deal with behind the counter, how many females here get ignored at dealerships?, just browse some of these pages, go into a Holden/BMW/Subaru dealer and ask for test drive, no problem, can you imagine a CUSTOMERS response if they wre told "sorry we don't have a demo car" people would faint, in the bike trade CUSTOMERS put up with this all the time, yes bike dealers are small because they think that way, I came back to riding bikes 18 months ago after a 17 year break and I was shocked by how dealers/ bike shops treat their customers, yeah there special alright.

BladeBoy · Post by **BladeBoy** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 7:35 pm

Neka79 wrote:
tanyathecheeky wrote: And then ppl walk in and demand a discount.. try telling kmart that
mate i get that all the time....

or they order say a $3k heater...so we get it in for em, hold it a week or 2 til there ready for it..then they want to cancel & get a refund!!...and when we tell em theres a 10% re-stocking fee they get the shits up....

or they buy a heater off us...go sumwhere else & its $20 cheaper..and ring us and complain.....we didnt kno our competitors were
a.cheaper
b.gunna offer em $20 less than they paid, just to piss em off.

or they buy said heater, and come in 3 months later,said heater is on special & $50 less, and they whinge & moan....

ppl are assholes...8 yrs of retail has told me this...

Yes Neka, heaters and stuff consumables, exactly my point, just look at the bling for bikes $1000 for rearsets?, do you think bike customers would not pay the price? they have a love affair with their machines.

BladeBoy · Post by **BladeBoy** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 7:37 pm

yup..i think ur right IK.....seems most tossers on R1's spend plenty of $$ blinging them....whereas most kwaka riders tend to just ride em??

That's why we now have a bling page??