clutch fingers

three fingers is all i need....baby.

actually i brake with three fingers too. the middle, ring and little fingers. huh.

three fingers is all i need....baby.

actually i brake with three fingers too. the middle, ring and little fingers. huh.

But I dont know you that well. I do now

three fingers is all i need....baby.

actually i brake with three fingers too. the middle, ring and little fingers. huh.

But I dont know you that well. I do now

gee wizz..3 fingers..ouch...
im a 2 finger braker..and my riding style seems to change after every crash...

three fingers is all i need....baby.

actually i brake with three fingers too. the middle, ring and little fingers. huh.

cant u get the whole hand in

2 fingers for me, clutch and brake. Habbit from mountain bikes, the instructors for my L's and P's were always reminding me how the lever will crush my fingers in a crash, etc.
*shrug*

I don't know if my riding style has changed or developed... guess I'll know after a few more years. I guess it depends on why you ride though, if your needs change then you'd have to change your style.

I'm an obsessive learnerer, so I'm stoked at how much cool riding info is around. Keith Code's books are great, and the video/dvd version can be mildly entertaining.

Err, you mean you use the clutch when changing gears? I always thought it was just for taking off and stopping.

Just what I was thinking

Analysed myself this morning - 4 fingers for both sides - all the time it seems.
Not sure about style changing as opposed to just progressively learning how to do things properly.
Slowly getting out of the habit of hovering over the rear-brake while cornering
ty

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Slowly getting out of the habit of hovering over the rear-brake while cornering ty

ty
just outta curiosity ..why?

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Slowly getting out of the habit of hovering over the rear-brake while cornering ty

ty
just outta curiosity ..why?

hey i cover my rear brake a lot too...helps to tip in tighter, also helps to stop the rear spinning up on exit....bad habit mostly..at the track a guy (racer) followed me & told me i was using it too much, (he was on a cbr600 race bike) so i stopped using it, spun up 3 or 4 times in 2 laps, and he pulled over & said "either go back to covering it on exit, or back of the loud handle a bit"...i took option 1...

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Slowly getting out of the habit of hovering over the rear-brake while cornering ty

ty
just outta curiosity ..why?

hey i cover my rear brake a lot too...helps to tip in tighter, also helps to stop the rear spinning up on exit....bad habit mostly..at the track a guy (racer) followed me & told me i was using it too much, (he was on a cbr600 race bike) so i stopped using it, spun up 3 or 4 times in 2 laps, and he pulled over & said "either go back to covering it on exit, or back of the loud handle a bit"...i took option 1...

I do it a tiny bit when the road feels a bit suss. The idea is that it smooths the power delivery, which you can also do with the clutch. I doubt it makes any difference on a modern 4. Any more than a teeny bit of pressure will reverse the effect and just make even more uneven power.

It also twists the front of the bike down, I think you'd only notice it on a bike with a torque bar for the rear brake, unless there's some tricky designs in the bikes without torque bars.
That's what tips the bike in faster, I notice it a lot more on the ZXR than other bikes I've ridden.
Not always a good thing either; i.e. leaned over on a bumpy road the forks will just be more loaded and rebound harder.

hmmm
rear brake?
neka and James use it to tip the bike in quicker
which is the same reason I do it

and the reason why I asked ty ...why not?

hmmm
rear brake?
neka and James use it to tip the bike in quicker
which is the same reason I do it

and the reason why I asked ty ...why not?

I use it to hold the front down a bit on smooth crested corners and sometimes off-chamber corners (which are rarely smooth enough) or when I'm just cruising and worry about having to emergency stop on a slippery road... might as well get the front down a bit just incase.
Still, probably only do it on 20% of corners.

Maybe it just doesn't suit Ty's bike or riding style.
*shrug*

hmmm
rear brake?
neka and James use it to tip the bike in quicker
which is the same reason I do it

and the reason why I asked ty ...why not?

I do it too, makes a difference to me, I do use a bit of brake on exiting to smooth the rear wheel especially on rough surfaces and also helps doing tight slow U turns too which is what I was shown at Q-ride. When Iam braking hard I will get on the rear a millisecond before the front, it seems to make the bike squat more evenly instead of a front end dive.

... When Iam braking hard I will get on the rear a millisecond before the front, it seems to make the bike squat more evenly instead of a front end dive.

I seem to remember an advanced riding instructor saying something like...
"it helps suck the bike down onto the road during heavy braking."

i use all 4 fingers around town.
purely cos, i do the both for brake and clutch.
if someone pulls out and u need to stop quickly, u don't want ur finger getting in the way of pulling the brake lever in all the way.

since i've been riding through the mountains, i notice i use two fingers on both levers.
i need the extra throttle control mid corner at higher revs on the 250.
i guess i'm less likely to need to do an emergency stop on the black spur.

my riding style has changed heaps since i joined the club.
i sit back on the seat more, i keep my forearms level to the ground and i hang off occasionally.

my 2c