Worth doing?

Mate, your zx6 has the best brakes on any stock bike.

Lines will make them very touchy, so be carefully first few laps. Stick with the major brands. Hel, spiegler good ridge and you won't go wrong.

As for fluid. I would stay away from rbf600, it's a silicone bases fluid and will require a mass flush out of the stock system otherwise the fluid will froth up.
You could run dot3 in those brakes and never have a problem.
I use penrite sin fluid.
But motul dot5.1 will be better than you ever need.


Bouncy bits? A revalve/respring of your stock gear should be under a grand.

An ohlins shock generally starts at over a grand just to purchase.

If I was to change my brake lines I would make sure I was pretty use to them before heading onto track. Also not even sure about oil at this stage. Will do a little more research beforehand.

How much difference would it make to get front forks done as one new springs and valves? When I was setting up front fork suspension myself and setting sag I did notice that the preload is almost wound fully out. I didn't think my bike suspension was that bad. Mind you when I went from my old 97 zx6r to current 2010 zx6r that was a major change.

Mate, your zx6 has the best brakes on any stock bike.

True re the brakes.. I just paid good money for a second hand set of zx6r calipers for my 10.

Do both together. Front and rear.

They work together.

Mate, your zx6 has the best brakes on any stock bike.

Lines will make them very touchy, so be carefully first few laps. Stick with the major brands. Hel, spiegler good ridge and you won't go wrong.

As for fluid. I would stay away from rbf600, it's a silicone bases fluid and will require a mass flush out of the stock system otherwise the fluid will froth up.
You could run dot3 in those brakes and never have a problem.
I use penrite sin fluid.
But motul dot5.1 will be better than you ever need.


Bouncy bits? A revalve/respring of your stock gear should be under a grand.

An ohlins shock generally starts at over a grand just to purchase.

Correction RBF 600 is not silicone based, ur confused with the other

Mate, your zx6 has the best brakes on any stock bike.

Lines will make them very touchy, so be carefully first few laps. Stick with the major brands. Hel, spiegler good ridge and you won't go wrong.

As for fluid. I would stay away from rbf600, it's a silicone bases fluid and will require a mass flush out of the stock system otherwise the fluid will froth up.
You could run dot3 in those brakes and never have a problem.
I use penrite sin fluid.
But motul dot5.1 will be better than you ever need.


Bouncy bits? A revalve/respring of your stock gear should be under a grand.

An ohlins shock generally starts at over a grand just to purchase.

Correction RBF 600 is not silicone based, ur confused with the other

What makes it different to the dot5.1?

I agree with BG, It is polyglycol based.

I'm having my shock done this week (re-valve etc). The forks are pretty awesome out of the box and the person doing my shock indicated the same thing. I think his words were <to be read with a British accent>: "You can either stick to the BPFs as they are or throw it all away and go regular ohlins cartridges. But the BPFs are pretty good!". Plus it just so happens that the OEM spring is just right for my weight, so the forks are just being refreshed. The rear shock seems to be the only weak spot on this bike, mine has 'misbehaved' lately so I thought I did something about it before it all ended in tears. Ideally I'd get an Ohlins 'cause in the end it really is better... but I just can't afford it atm.

As for the brake lines, go for it. I have them on mine and they brakes are not touchy AT ALL. Very easy to modulate, very hard to mess it up. You'd have to be trying, I think. The OEM M/C is pretty user-friendly, so despite having REALLY good calipers, braided lines are not an overkill. I'm using Motul DOT5 atm, no complaints.

As previously said , brakes are fine as is. Add braided lines if you wish but all in all the would stop a freight train on a 10cent piece. They don't fade or over heat.

I'm having my shock done this week (re-valve etc). The forks are pretty awesome out of the box and the person doing my shock indicated the same thing. I think his words were <to be read with a British accent>: "You can either stick to the BPFs as they are or throw it all away and go regular ohlins cartridges. But the BPFs are pretty good!". Plus it just so happens that the OEM spring is just right for my weight, so the forks are just being refreshed. The rear shock seems to be the only weak spot on this bike, mine has 'misbehaved' lately so I thought I did something about it before it all ended in tears. Ideally I'd get an Ohlins 'cause in the end it really is better... but I just can't afford it atm.

As for the brake lines, go for it. I have them on mine and they brakes are not touchy AT ALL. Very easy to modulate, very hard to mess it up. You'd have to be trying, I think. The OEM M/C is pretty user-friendly, so despite having REALLY good calipers, braided lines are not an overkill. I'm using Motul DOT5 atm, no complaints.

What do you weigh?
I heard that the back shock was what lets it down also. So what you getting done to front forks?

Might be the different style tracks but ive noticed a lot of the us-based zx6r riders/tuners (in various race forums) complain about the front end chatter issues and difficulty in tuning the bpf, but consistent with what your tuner said. I dont have one so can't verify, just passing it on.

What do you weigh?
I heard that the back shock was what lets it down also. So what you getting done to front forks?

To the forks, just a refresh really. So new oil/seals/etc. And you're right, the shock is the biggest let down here.

Oh! And I weigh around 80-85kg with gear. Hopefully dropping 5Kg over the next month or so 'cause the last 2 months were 'intense' if you know what I mean...

Might be the different style tracks but ive noticed a lot of the us-based zx6r riders/tuners (in various race forums) complain about the front end chatter issues and difficulty in tuning the bpf, but consistent with what your tuner said. I dont have one so can't verify, just passing it on.

True, heaps of ppl complain about that. I had never had it on mine till this weekend. Had a little bit of it going into T4 at EC. My tire was pretty shagged on the right side so I'm not sure if that had an effect on that or not. To be honest, I may not even be fast enough to be generating chatter... who knows!?

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Anyway, as entertaining as this has been...
Poor guys thread got hijacked big time...
So mate i thinks its safe to say that motul RBF 600 is quiet ok to use.. i use it in both my bikes, and have for some time, not the cheapest, but prob one of the better one's, with a boiling point of dry..312dec C
And as for the brake lines, i agree with the guy that said there fine.. not going to give u better brakes, just a better feel at the lever, and thats allways a good thing..

So if u are free on the 28th, drop up for a look, myself and the other's that have booked will be more than happy to have a chat... hope u have givin steve a ring as he will steer u in the right direction with reguards to suspension work...

I'd honestly wait until you can ride the arse off your bike as it is (track days or not). Suspension would be my first point of upgrade/expenditure. Get someone in the know to set it up for YOU. You'll make more inroads into lap times with that money spent than you would with an exhaust.

The stock brakes are actually decent on your bike - so they don't need too much tweaking. A full exhaust and PCV will help a little.

Perhaps if you want a serious track weapon - invest in a track bike!

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