Race shift pattern Yes/No?

For general Technical and Performance Discussions

Race shift pattern Yes/No?

Postby Baddie » Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:18 pm

Just finishing installing my foot controls and I’m wondering how many of you are running a Race shift pattern? (Reverse shift pattern)

Also if anyone is currently using Attack performance foot controls and have changed over to race shift setup can you attach/PM a picture.

http://shop.attackperformance.com/Produ ... 1138393770
http://superbikesource.com.au/
For aftermarket racing products, from Annitori Quickshifters to Race fairings.

http://tarmactalk.com/forum/forum.php
User avatar
Baddie
KSRC Member
KSRC Member
 
Posts: 310
Joined: Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:02 am
Location: Glenmore Park
Bike: ZX10R
State: New South Wales

Re: Race shift pattern Yes/No?

Postby robracer » Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:25 pm

Nope too confusing, 17 years of normal gear shifting before starting to race it was way too hard to get used to it :?
User avatar
robracer
VIP MEMBER
VIP MEMBER
 
Posts: 15251
Joined: Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:23 pm
Location: Port Macquarie
Bike: ZX6R
State: New South Wales

Re: Race shift pattern Yes/No?

Postby Disco » Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:31 pm

We were in the pit with Hamish last week and he has just switched his....I don't think he liked it much as he said he found himself stopping and thinking more before he shifted therefore making him slower....In saying that by the end of the second day he was doing 1.46 :D
Stopping=Crashing!
Disco
Team Monster
 
Posts: 3430
Joined: Fri May 02, 2008 5:52 pm
Bike: ZX6R
State: Please Select a State

Re: Race shift pattern Yes/No?

Postby TITANIUMBULLET » Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:39 pm

keith once you get used to it , its alot faster than standard shift!
2019 multi 1260 ENDUROTOURER
1972 H2 750 BLUE PRIZED POSSESION THE KING!
1974 H1E GREEN CLASSIC
3 X 72 s2 350 ALL RED
1 X 73 S2 350 BLUE
08 ZX10R WEAPON SOLD08
klx450r bush basher(sold)
05 zx10r titanium(gone)
2 X 06 ZX10r (gone)
07 zx10r track bike(gone)
06 r6 yammy track bike(gone)
User avatar
TITANIUMBULLET
KSRC Member
KSRC Member
 
Posts: 199
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:40 pm
Location: sydney
Bike: ZX10R
State: New South Wales

Re: Race shift pattern Yes/No?

Postby hoffy » Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:40 pm

yeah do it ! :twisted:
hoffy
Team Barge
Team Barge
 
Posts: 8744
Joined: Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:59 am
Bike: Z1000
State: New South Wales

Re: Race shift pattern Yes/No?

Postby ducati_paul » Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:38 am

robracer wrote:Nope too confusing, 17 years of normal gear shifting before starting to race it was way too hard to get used to it :?


Change all your bikes ya big poof! :kuda:

(I don't use it)
2012 Royal Enfield Military for the Road
User avatar
ducati_paul
KSRC Contributor
KSRC Contributor
 
Posts: 1713
Joined: Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:58 pm
Location: Sydney
Bike: ZX10R
State: New South Wales

Re: Race shift pattern Yes/No?

Postby robracer » Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:06 am

Too late Paul ... but I will if you will :roll:
User avatar
robracer
VIP MEMBER
VIP MEMBER
 
Posts: 15251
Joined: Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:23 pm
Location: Port Macquarie
Bike: ZX6R
State: New South Wales

Re: Race shift pattern Yes/No?

Postby Strika » Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:18 am

At the Island, you are severely hampered if you run a road pattern, as you cannot get your foot under the lever through 10 n 11. Most other tracks it doesn't matter too much. But, once used to it, it is def faster upchanges.
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me" Hunter S. Thompson.
There are really only two questions in life. 1.Which way do i go? 2.What is the lap record?
User avatar
Strika
VIP MEMBER
VIP MEMBER
 
Posts: 8373
Joined: Tue Feb 01, 2005 8:02 am
Location: Melbourne
Bike: Yamaha
State: Victoria

Re: Race shift pattern Yes/No?

Postby Glen » Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:25 am

I presume youre talking on a tracky. On a roady it'd be a bit of a toss and probably just a little dangerous ie I'd rather risk missing an upshift then a downshift.

It's really just personal choice I guess. The fast guys here don't use it and they're a lot faster then anyone else here on pretty well any track you'd like to name.
It's really all about standing around drinking Dave's beer.
2008 ZRX1200 Greeeeen Roadie
2016 KTM Superduke 1290 Oraaaaange
2016 Seadoo RXTX300
Too many toys.......work is getting in the way!!!!
User avatar
Glen
VIP MEMBER
VIP MEMBER
 
Posts: 7268
Joined: Mon Apr 18, 2005 10:30 am
Location: Kellyville
Bike: ZRX
State: New South Wales

Re: Race shift pattern Yes/No?

Postby Strika » Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:52 am

Glen wrote:I presume youre talking on a tracky. On a roady it'd be a bit of a toss and probably just a little dangerous ie I'd rather risk missing an upshift then a downshift.

It's really just personal choice I guess. The fast guys here don't use it and they're a lot faster then anyone else here on pretty well any track you'd like to name.

we don't have any fast guys in here that I know of? Name one who is running top 5 or even 10 Nationally and I will eat my words. I bet you will find that the MAJORITY of FAST guys use a race pattern.
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me" Hunter S. Thompson.
There are really only two questions in life. 1.Which way do i go? 2.What is the lap record?
User avatar
Strika
VIP MEMBER
VIP MEMBER
 
Posts: 8373
Joined: Tue Feb 01, 2005 8:02 am
Location: Melbourne
Bike: Yamaha
State: Victoria

Re: Race shift pattern Yes/No?

Postby Nelso » Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:44 am

Leanne uses race shift on the track and normal shift on the road as all her race bikes were race shift. Now she struggles to ride a bike with normal shift on the track even though she has no problem on the road. I am too scared to give it a go as I've spent the last 30 years using normal gear changes but I think it would be a good thing to switch to if you race.
Green '08 ZRX1200 Road bike
Green 2012 ZX10 Track/race bike
Green '89 H1 ZXR750 race bike
'89 RMX250 motard race bike
2015 YZ450
2017 KTM EXC300
User avatar
Nelso
VIP MEMBER
VIP MEMBER
 
Posts: 3691
Joined: Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:22 pm
Location: Wollongong
Bike: ZRX
State: New South Wales

Re: Race shift pattern Yes/No?

Postby robracer » Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:59 am

Nelso I think its about having to think about it before actually changing thats the problem I faced, the Forgetten era bikes I raced on (some not my bikes) were set up with race shift & after trying both I changed back over to normal pattern the loss of race positions due to a wrong change was not worth it.
User avatar
robracer
VIP MEMBER
VIP MEMBER
 
Posts: 15251
Joined: Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:23 pm
Location: Port Macquarie
Bike: ZX6R
State: New South Wales

Re: Race shift pattern Yes/No?

Postby Glen » Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:59 am

Strika wrote:
Glen wrote:I presume youre talking on a tracky. On a roady it'd be a bit of a toss and probably just a little dangerous ie I'd rather risk missing an upshift then a downshift.

It's really just personal choice I guess. The fast guys here don't use it and they're a lot faster then anyone else here on pretty well any track you'd like to name.

we don't have any fast guys in here that I know of? Name one who is running top 5 or even 10 Nationally and I will eat my words. I bet you will find that the MAJORITY of FAST guys use a race pattern.


I think you just made my point. Thank You
It's really all about standing around drinking Dave's beer.
2008 ZRX1200 Greeeeen Roadie
2016 KTM Superduke 1290 Oraaaaange
2016 Seadoo RXTX300
Too many toys.......work is getting in the way!!!!
User avatar
Glen
VIP MEMBER
VIP MEMBER
 
Posts: 7268
Joined: Mon Apr 18, 2005 10:30 am
Location: Kellyville
Bike: ZRX
State: New South Wales

Re: Race shift pattern Yes/No?

Postby MadKaw » Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:11 am

Hmmm, national series you say... :D ... ;)

2010 AUSTRALIAN FORMULA XTREME CHAMPIONSHIP
ROUND 5 - EASTERN CREEK RACEWAY
OCTOBER 30 & 31

FX 1000
FX 1000 - FX NATIONALS - OVERALL
PROVISIONAL ROUND POINTS

RND 5 RND 5 RND 5
Pos No Name Race 1 Race 2 Race 3 Total

1 11 Patrick MEDCALF (NSW) 22 25 22 69
2 21 Kevin CURTAIN (NSW) 25 18 25 68
3 65 Cru HALLIDAY (NSW) 20 20 20 60
4 22 Glenn CULLEN (NSW) 18 16 18 52
5 14 Jason CULLEN (NSW) 16 15 15 46
6 3 Jamie AITKEN (NSW) 15 14 14 43
7 23 Duncan MIDDLETON (NSW) 14 11 13 38
8 9 Damien MURPHY (ACT) 13 12 12 37
9 55 David WATT (NSW) 10 10 11 31
10 8 Andrew IRWIN (ACT) 11 9 10 30

-----
2010 AUSTRALIAN FORMULA XTREME CHAMPIONSHIP
ROUND 2 - WINTON MOTOR RACEWAY
JUNE 5 & 6

RED BARON FORMULA OZ
FORMULA OZ - AUST. FX CHAMP. - OVERALL

ROUND POINTS

Rnd 2 Rnd 2 Rnd 2
Pos No Name Race 1 Race 2 Race 3 Total

1 61 Zac DAVIES (NSW) 20 22 25 67
2 45 Richard ZAJA (ACT) 22 20 22 64
3 19 Mitch PIROTTA (NSW) 18 16 20 54
4 4 Grant HAY (NSW) 25 25 0 50
5 26 Sean CONDON (NSW) 15 15 18 48
6 23 Mathew FYFFE (NSW) 14 14 15 43
7 53 Michael JEFFERY (NSW) 12 12 16 40
8 77 David LOWE (NSW) 11 11 14 36
9 25 Alistair MAXWELL (NSW) 16 18 0 34
10 98 Mark McHENRY (VIC) 9 9 12 30

-----
2010 AUSTRALIAN FORMULA XTREME CHAMPIONSHIP
ROUND 3 - EASTERN CREEK RACEWAY
JULY 3 & 4

RED BARON FORMULA OZ
FORMULA OZ - AUST. FX CHAMP. - OVERALL

ROUND POINTS

RND 3 RND 3 RND 3
Pos No Name RACE 1 RACE 2 RACE 3 Total

1 61 Zac DAVIES (NSW) 25 25 25 75
2 45 Richard ZAJA (ACT) 20 22 20 62
3 96 Aaron GOBERT (NSW) 18 20 18 56
4 19 Mitch PIROTTA (NSW) 16 18 16 50
5 4 Grant HAY (NSW) 22 0 22 44
6 5 Chris KNOX (NSW) 15 14 15 44
7 24 Tony MIHALJEVIC (NSW) 14 16 14 44
8 53 Michael JEFFERY (NSW) 13 15 13 41
9 60 Ben BURKE (NSW) 11 13 12 36
10 77 David LOWE (NSW) 12 12 9 33
11 23 Mathew FYFFE (NSW) 9 11 10 30
12 68 Amy O'MARA (NSW) 8 10 11 29
Dave
2010 Z1000
ex bikes
05 ZX-10R Race Bike - No.77
95 ZXR750R M Race Bike - No. 75
98 ZX9R Race Bike - No. 000
zx6r, zx7r, GPX750, GPX500, lots of KX's.
Image
I ride way too fast to worry about cholesterol
User avatar
MadKaw
Administrator
Administrator
 
Posts: 9670
Joined: Tue Apr 20, 2004 4:33 pm
Location: Windsor or the Creek..
Bike: ZX10R
State: New South Wales

Re: Race shift pattern Yes/No?

Postby Wattie » Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:55 am

IVe never felt the need for it. Except at pi as marty mentioned
Wattie #55
ZX10R "The Crim"
ZX10R "Gumby"
Proudly Supported by Allfixed Automotive 9634 1455
sam & srt, survived
RGM, left a message
User avatar
Wattie
VIP MEMBER
VIP MEMBER
 
Posts: 10041
Joined: Mon Oct 31, 2005 12:23 pm
Location: Bligh Park
Bike: ZX10R
State: New South Wales

Next

Return to General Tech & Performance Talk

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 7 guests