Brake query???

For general Technical and Performance Discussions

Brake query???

Postby philbo » Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:48 pm

so i did a service on my bike today ready for gingers and needed to replace my front brake pads. did this and bleed front and back lines. Problem is brakes feel very average. I know they need to bed in but will they get better once being used after a couple of k's or have i ballsed up somewhere????
KEEPIN'IT REAL ON THE WESS SIDE

DONT LET FEAR HOLD YOU BACK

Storm-010 white zx6r
User avatar
philbo
KSRC Contributor
KSRC Contributor
 
Posts: 1460
Joined: Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:04 pm
Location: western australia or the ocean
Bike: ZX6R
State: Western Australia

Re: Brake query???

Postby dave#3 » Fri Apr 02, 2010 8:12 pm

Is it excess lever travel or just the pads not feeling great? The pads should improve a little, particularly if you've put quality pads in, but not too much.
dave#3 | '03 z1000 roadie | '08 zx6r tracky | '03 KLX400R dirty
http://www.oz4x4.net/gallery2
Winner - KSRC Murphy's Law Award 2008
User avatar
dave#3
Team Ninja
 
Posts: 3097
Joined: Mon Apr 26, 2004 7:11 pm
Location: Yarramalong, NSW
Bike: Z1000
State: New South Wales

Re: Brake query???

Postby philbo » Fri Apr 02, 2010 8:15 pm

nah lever feels ok. got ferrodo pads for it. yeah pads feel bit shocking doesnt pull up as quick or feel confident. will test it agtain tomorow.
KEEPIN'IT REAL ON THE WESS SIDE

DONT LET FEAR HOLD YOU BACK

Storm-010 white zx6r
User avatar
philbo
KSRC Contributor
KSRC Contributor
 
Posts: 1460
Joined: Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:04 pm
Location: western australia or the ocean
Bike: ZX6R
State: Western Australia

Re: Brake query???

Postby Richo » Fri Apr 02, 2010 8:18 pm

Brake pads need a little breaking in (no pun intended :roll: ) ... as the surface of the pad needs to mold to the disk ... as as a result, new pads will only have a certain percentage of the pad grabbing the disk for so many K's before both become acquainted with each other ;)

Having said that ... .it doesnt really take that long, and if your brakes are feeling squishy/spongy ... then you have probably got some air in your lines when you bled them .... meaning, keep bleeding til said squishiness has elapsed ;)
2004 ZRX1200R
And on the seventh day Richo ended his work which he had made. Decided resting was for soft cox, straddled the REX and headed up the old road.
And it was good
User avatar
Richo
Team Chainsaw
Team Chainsaw
 
Posts: 1919
Joined: Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:55 pm
Location: Mount Colah
Bike: ZRX
State: New South Wales

Re: Brake query???

Postby philbo » Fri Apr 02, 2010 8:21 pm

cheers dave and richo. yeah lines are fine no air bubles in bleeding no spongy feeling, confident there. might just be too cautious of it too
KEEPIN'IT REAL ON THE WESS SIDE

DONT LET FEAR HOLD YOU BACK

Storm-010 white zx6r
User avatar
philbo
KSRC Contributor
KSRC Contributor
 
Posts: 1460
Joined: Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:04 pm
Location: western australia or the ocean
Bike: ZX6R
State: Western Australia

Re: Brake query???

Postby oldman » Fri Apr 02, 2010 11:45 pm

When putting on new pads you need to rough up the disks a bit with 400 grit sandpaper. You will need to remove them from the wheel and set them on a flat surface and take the glaze off them. An easy job and it makes the pads break in very quickly. It helps if you have some brown liquid washed down with a cold beer. :kuda:
oldman
 

Re: Brake query???

Postby philbo » Sun Apr 04, 2010 12:45 am

seems pretty sweet rode to watsons bay today and was alot better than yesterday. prob spilt shit over disk and just needed to be bedded in. will test again mon. but was actually shifting weight to the front today and loading up front springs
KEEPIN'IT REAL ON THE WESS SIDE

DONT LET FEAR HOLD YOU BACK

Storm-010 white zx6r
User avatar
philbo
KSRC Contributor
KSRC Contributor
 
Posts: 1460
Joined: Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:04 pm
Location: western australia or the ocean
Bike: ZX6R
State: Western Australia

Re: Brake query???

Postby robracer » Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:39 am

Once you spill fluid on the pads they are ruined, so I have been told :?
User avatar
robracer
VIP MEMBER
VIP MEMBER
 
Posts: 15251
Joined: Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:23 pm
Location: Port Macquarie
Bike: ZX6R
State: New South Wales

Re: Brake query???

Postby mick_dundee » Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:05 am

oldman wrote:When putting on new pads you need to rough up the disks a bit with 400 grit sandpaper. You will need to remove them from the wheel and set them on a flat surface and take the glaze off them. An easy job and it makes the pads break in very quickly. It helps if you have some brown liquid washed down with a cold beer. :kuda:


Wouldn't it be a shitload easier to rough up the pads rather than the discs, or am I being too logical here? :D
A good mate will bail you out of jail, a true mate will be sitting in the cell next to you saying "Damn, we fucked up!!!"
mick_dundee
Team Naked
Team Naked
 
Posts: 5344
Joined: Sat Jul 09, 2005 2:05 pm
Location: Kilmore
Bike: Suzuki
State: Victoria

Re: Brake query???

Postby oldman » Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:09 am

[:[/quote]

Wouldn't it be a shitload easier to rough up the pads rather than the discs, or am I being too logical here? :D[/quote]
It would be easier but would not help as the pads have to conform to the disks not the other way around. You are correct if you have glazed pads, however it is unlikely he has glazed pads as he has just put them on. It's always good to rough up the disks or the drums when putting in new shoes or pads. Do not use heavier than 400 grit sandpaper. It is best if you are doing it by hand to wrap the sandpaper in a small flat piece of wood to keep the abrasion consistant on disks, obviously not drums. Kind of like drinking Jim out of the bottle instead of giving yourself a measured amount, (as if I've never done that). Cheers. drunken_smilie.gif
oldman
 

Re: Brake query???

Postby robracer » Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:37 am

Flat concrete works just as well for glazed pads ;)
User avatar
robracer
VIP MEMBER
VIP MEMBER
 
Posts: 15251
Joined: Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:23 pm
Location: Port Macquarie
Bike: ZX6R
State: New South Wales


Return to General Tech & Performance Talk

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 9 guests