Job situation

[Dizzi]

Ok so am after a hyperthetical, I know I use you guys (in a good way of course) as a huge sound board at times or for some they are completely and utterly deaf now from hanging out with me but you get that.

Ok so lets say you know someone who was in a job for four months got out of that one only to land a job working for a bully who has no sympathy or time for someone to adjust to a new role (this person has been in this role for six weeks which apparently they should know everything by now. Would you expect that person to know everything by now?), has anyone been in this situation and gone stuff it packed it in and found another job or do you stick it out.

Ok there maybe options to move on if so would you? or would you even try?

I know this isn't a motorcycle question, but it's a mate question, in a time when a mate really is miserable.

[Disco]

Edit: hijack

[mick_dundee]

Dizzi, your call of course but right at the minute the job market isn't exactly bulging with opportunities, if you think you can get another job quickly then by all means tell him to shove it, no point staying where you're miserable but might be worth while sourcing aopther job first just to be on the safe side, failing that, stickmit out as long as you can I guess.

[hoffy]

A Can-Do attitude and a eagerness to learn should solve this persons problem, eh
Just get stuck in or if it dont feel right just walk away as soon as you can

(post edited, eh.....)

[dilligaf]

Are you in a union? Talk to them anyway. Bullying opens up all sorts of legal liabilities for the employer (Can you tell I've done the training?) and can be very expensive for them.

[Bussa]

Hiya Dizzy,
I am firm believer in enjoying at least 90% of workplace environment, you a have got to want to be there in order to make it all happen, a person needs to be able to freely communicate without intimidation,needs to have a good laugh with their work mates and also get the job done right, to get the $$$.
If a persons churned up gut feeling and thoughts keep turning up "i got to get out of here", then it's time to go.
As mick_dundee stated,employment is lean at the moment, a person has to play it smart, keep it close to their chest, secure a new position, hope for the best, and then drop the bomb on the boss.
Under general circumstances a boss will not change his ways, after all it's his buisness - his risk.
Good Luck

[smithy5]

HTFU












Someone was gonig to say it.........

[ttc]

Dizzi, I'd say a lot depends on your finances.
Can you afford to leave and be covered if it takes a little while to find a job?

I'm all for leaving if you can afford it, I've done a bit of job changing, and there's simply no point in working somewhere and doing something when you sit there in the morning and think that you smply can't go to work because you hate it that much. One place I stood outside the door for ten minutes as I simply couldn't make myself go in, when you feel that way you cut your losses and run.

[waynemorgan]

Hi Dizzi,

I was in a similar position 2 years ago - boss ended up being a total pig. One morning during a sales meeting our senior advisor was sacked and then it was my turn - in front of the whole staff. We were both lucky tho - I had another job within 2 hours and the other advisor was about 2 days.

Before it got to this point tho I hated walking into the office - to the point of getting sick.

Dont let a job kill you or your spirit. If you can afford to get out of it before finding another position then get out. I will say this tho - it's easier to find another job while working. There are jobs out there but it's not a job-seekers paradise just now.

Cheers

[ty]

Different area of expertise (software engineering) but I expect my guys to be learning/training for anywhere from 1-6 months (depending on experience), and don't expect them to ever know everything. I've been where I am for almost 13 years and still don't know 'everything' about our product.

But the question comes down to, despite the boss, does 'the mate' like the work? If 'they' do then I suggest stick it out, perhaps even talk to the guy (if that's feasible).
If 'they' don't like the work, and 'they' have other options - 'they' look at them.

I'd thought this 'mate' was pretty keen on the work in the new job, so dealing with a crappy boss could probably be tolerated - for a time.
ty

[Cath]

Dizz, I'm a firm believer that life is too short to be miserable for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week. You said you had calls asking if you were still looking for work - I'd follow up with those, and look for new opportunities too. If one comes through and seems like a good job (and good people to work with), then go for it. No point being miserable at a job, but thinking you should stick it out for whatever reason, especially if there's a better offer elsewhere. Seriously, if it sucks after 6 weeks, it's only going to suck more the longer you stay, not get better, and at 6 weeks you don't even have to have it show up on your resume! Think of it as a job test ride, that seemed nice in the showroom, but out on the road isn't what you want. So find a better ride, then take it back to the shop with a polite "Thank you, but no thanks". Nobody ever has to know you test rode a Suzuki before you got the Kawasaki

So do four things:
1) Decide if you will stay there until you find something else, or if you'll hand in your notice on Monday (depending on finances and just how bad the workplace is).
2) Call the leads you have and do some applications
3) STOP "should"ing yourself. "Should" is one of the most destructive words in your head!
4) Enjoy your weekend

[Dizzi]

You guys rock, I absolutely love this place, I also love the fact that some of you don't suger coat it makes me laugh because the folks would so tell me to HTFU and suck it up (funny haven't told them about this yet ) but where others here have also said if you are at the point where you are so miserable and it kills your spirit and you feel sick of the thought of going back there, which, it's only Saturday and the thought is making me quite ill, it aint worth it. It feesl like I am being a recluse (and for those who know that is a spiral down a bad path for me as it just isn't my personality) I can't joke with this particular employer either it's their way or nothing basically. I think after having very little sleep last night and running everything over in my pee size brain, that one of the biggest problems is a huge personality clash and the fact that basically I stood up for myself in relation to being blamed for something I could prove 150% I was not responsible for. I have been in other job situations where have had confrontations had a lil sook and gotten over it this, I couldn't pull myself together all day after the meeting. The other fact that I have only been there six weeks and apparently I should know everything as if like the pervious person who I replaced had been there for four years, also makes me think, things aren't going to change.

The other thing over the last three weeks I have had phone calls for other job offers, I have no intentions of leaving this job unless I have something secured first but also wanted to know if anyone else had sort of bounced this much with jobs, I don't think it's the greatest move to make but at the same time I don't think I will be able to relax after this in the job and give it my all without being wound so tight, it's either going to cause a massive explosion or a fall in a heap situation and I don't want either.

Again you guys all rock, it's been the toughest time for me since last year when I was made redundant oh and that is another thing the job I was made redundant out of I absolutely loved, loved the environment, loved the boss, everything was great and it's hard to find the same sort of environment but something at least half way would be good to. This job has the work type I like, just the people, not what I thought, well that is a lie I had a gut feeling at the interview but was desperate to get out of the other place, they say you learn each time though right .

Honestly if it weren't for all of you guys, well yeah you all rock, can't wait till Chrissi to meet some more of you, hmmm might have to think of some kind of thank you for all (we need a thinker smiley here)

[ty]

From what you've just clarified I'd definitely be looking up those other offers.
As Cath said, it's not worth the stress.
I think there's a point up to which HTFU makes sense - you're past it, get out.

[Ali600+150]

We spend so much time at work - we should at least ENJOY it! .........in the mean time, the only advice I can offer is RED WINE on weeknights, and lots of it

[seiko1]

Bully Bosses are usually that way because they are actually as weak as piss
Give back ten times worse than he gives and the little puncy prick will crawl back under his rock.
Works a treat and always helps if your 6' 4" and fucken arrogant