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Postby Jonno » Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:31 pm

Hey all, after meeting and knowing many people here and in general I have been surprised at how many do not know one end of a spanner from the other let alone how to use it correctly and for some reason are afraid to ask, feel comfortable with others working on their vehicles, or attempt anything themselves, I tend to forget this as I just assume people know.

Many of us here do know how to use tools and have had professional training, we do forget that others don’t know and they are often confused and frightened off by the terminology used or just the thought of using a tool. Sometimes you can tell when you get that look back like I am talking gobbnlydook to them and they switch off :lol:

Anyway, I was reading this article at autospeed.com and it dawned on me some here may benefit from it even in a small way so I copied and pasted it below, all credit must go to the mentioned author. Although he wrote it for cars the same principles of tool use applys to bikes and anything else for that matter.This article does not cover all tools just the basic sockets and spanners.




Using Hand Tools - Spanners and Sockets
Vital information for working on cars
by Julian Edgar


People who have either a formal training in the use of hand tools (eg they’ve done a trade apprenticeship) or who have had a very long experience of using tools (ie they’ve learnt from their mistakes) tend to assume that everyone knows how to use tools. I mean to say, what is there to know about using spanners? Well, quite a lot.
It’s only when you see people who have simply no idea of how to use hand tools that you realise the very real necessity of learning. I remember when I taught automotive mechanics to secondary school students. Not having a ‘trade’ background I wondered if my ignorance would soon show, but I needed have worried. After all, it was only a few lessons into the term that I saw a student using an adjustable shifter to try to remove head bolts... (And for those that wonder at the significance: head bolts are amongst the most tightly torqued of any bolts in a car... you need a well-fitting socket and a long lever to undo them.)
Knowing how to use tools has two major advantages. (1) You’re more likely to readily achieve success; (2) You’re less likely to damage the equipment you’re working on. And those two points are related: round-off the head of a nut you’re trying to undo with the wrong tool and/or technique and you’ll find success terribly elusive...

Undoing and Doing-Up Nuts and Bolts
The two proper ways of undoing (and doing-up) nuts and bolts are with spanners and sockets. Aside from the different sizes, spanners come in two basic types: ring and open-ended. Both ring spanners and sockets can be either 6 or 12 point. The number of ‘points’ refers to the number of flats on the inside of the ring spanner or socket.

A 6-point design has a hexagonal shape... Image

Image ... a 12-point design has twice as many internal flats.
Six-point sockets and spanners are usually cheaper and are less likely to slip (ie round-off the nut or bolt) but they have a major disadvantage in that they cannot be applied at as many rotational angles. In other words, a 6-point ring spanner may not be able to be fitted on the nut or bolt as the length of the spanner may foul something. In the same location, a 12 point spanner will fit.
Absolutely vital in successfully working with nuts and bolts is to know the correct hierarchy of use. In other words, which of the available tools should be the first preference?


• Number 1 Choice – Socket

The first choice in doing up (or undoing) a nut or Image
a bolt should be a socket. If the nut or bolt needs to be torqued to a high value, a 6 point socket should be used. (In normal circumstances, either a 6 point or 12 point socket is fine.) The socket should be equipped with as short an extension bar as possible - preferably with none. (This to avoid applying a force that tries to lever the socket off the nut or bolt as it is being turned.) The socket can be turned by a ratchet handle, a sliding T-handle or even, for low torque values, a screwdriver-type handle.
The only exception to picking a socket as the first choice is if there’s plenty of room and the nut or bolt is likely to be so tight that a lever needs to be added to the tool. In that case, use a ring spanner.


• Number 2 Choice – Ring Spanner

Image The second choice of tool for doing-up or undoing a nut or a bolt should be a ring spanner. Where space above the nut or bolt will not allow a socket and ratchet handle to be used, a ring spanner is appropriate. Again, if the nut or bolt needs to be torqued to a high value, a 6 point ring spanner should be used.


• Number 3 Choice – Open-Ended Spanner

Open-ended spanners are simply great tools... Image
.......for rounding off nuts and bolts.
Very few open-ended spanners have sufficient strength to undo nuts and bolts that have been adequately torqued. Similarly, very few open-ended spanners have sufficient strength to adequate torque-up nuts and bolts. Open-ended spanners should therefore only be used when there is inadequate space around the nut or bolt to permit either a socket or ring spanner to fit – and that’s a pretty unusual situation.
However, open-ended spanners are very useful in undoing nuts and bolts that have been ‘cracked’ (ie the initial tightening torque undone) but which are sticky on the threads. For example, a Nyloc nut should be cracked with a socket or ring spanner and then, if it’s easier, can be undone completely with an open-ended spanner.


• Number 4 Choice – Adjustable Wrench

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An adjustable wrench or spanner is even more likely than an open-ended spanner to wreck the head of the nut or bolt. After all, it’s just an open-ended spanner with a built-in adjustment mechanism that allows the jaws to spring even further apart... Adjustable wrenches should never be normally used on nuts and bolts. Only in an emergency, where no suitably sized spanner or socket exists, should an adjustable wrench be used.


• (Not the) Number 5 Choice – Pliers

Pliers should never be used to do-up or undo nuts and bolts.Image
It’s as simple as that. The only reason I ever use pliers on a nut or a bolt is if it has already been rounded and it’s impossible to use a spanner or socket. If you ever see anyone using pliers on a nut or a bolt, they simply aren’t much of a workman (workperson – gender not implied).

Tips and Tricks

• ‘Cracking’ Nuts or Bolts

Most nuts and bolts which have been torqued-up are pretty tight. Applying gradual force by a ring spanner or socket will often leave you frustrated and sore – the nut or bolt simply doesn’t want to ‘give’. The trick is to ‘crack’ the torque with a sudden, high force.
On smaller nuts and bolts (those on which you’d use an 8 or 10mm spanner), hitting the end of the spanner with your cupped hand will often crack the torque. On larger nuts and bolts, using a rubber mallet will perform the same trick.
On really big bolts, like those used on suspension components, pushing hard with your foot will often crack them. Now kicking a spanner doesn’t sound very good workshop practice, but if you’re got the car securely on stands and you’re already under the car, you can apply with your foot a lot of force in a direction that won’t cause the spanner to be levered off.


• Angled Extension Bars

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Extension bars for socket sets are available with bevelled edges, allowing the extension bar to be out of line with the socket. These are sometimes called wobble extension bars and in some situations, they can be an absolute Godsend. These bars can be bought separately: they’re something you should have in your tool box.


• Hi Torque Bolts/Nuts

If the bolt or nut that you’ve taken off was very highly torqued, think about why the manufacturer (or whoever previously did up the fitting!) made it so tight.
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If there is an important reason that it should be tight, consider applying a Loctite or equivalent locking compound. In many cases, using a locking compound means you won’t have to go ballistic on the torque (which saves potential thread stripping or nut rounding) and the fastener will be more secure than before.


• Accurate Torquing

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Anything involving bearings (plain, roller, needle), important gaskets (eg head gasket) or castellated nuts (ie a split pin goes through the end) should have the bolts torqued as described in a workshop manual. That might mean applying a certain peak torque (as measured by a torque wrench) or by a certain angle of rotation.


• Direction of Rotation

Pretty well anyone who has even picked up a Image
spanner knows that you turn it clockwise to do the fastener up and anti-clockwise to undo it. But two points. Firstly, these directions are reversed if the fastener is upside-down (and only the other day I saw a mechanic of 30 years’ experience get this wrong!), and this convention applies only to right-hand threads. Some special threads are backwards - eg on specific gas cylinders, some fittings associated with rotating shafts and some tie-rod ends.


• Multiple Fasteners

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If the object you’re working on has in held in place with multiple fasteners, never tighten one fastener to full torque before doing up the rest. Instead, torque them up evenly, working your way back and forth across the object. This applies to wheel nuts, cylinder head bolts, tappet cover bolts – anywhere there’re multiple fasteners used to hold something in place. And the reason? You want the object to ‘bed down’ evenly, not end up cocked on one side.


• Nipping Up”

In most cases, fasteners don’t need to be mega-tight. Image
It’s one of the most common mistakes a beginner makes - assuming that every fastener has to be as tight as they can make it. In fact, most fasteners can be “nipped up”. This means tightening the fastener to the point where it starts to resist tightening, and then applying a relatively small but sudden shock to the end of the spanner or socket handle. Sump plugs, for example, should be nipped up – tight enough that they’ll never fall out but not nearly tight enough that the thread will be stripped. On the other hand, suspension and brake nuts and bolts should be quite a lot tighter than being just nipped up.


Conclusion
If a long time ago someone had told me about the concepts of 6 point and 12 point sockets, the hierarchy of tools to use when doing-up nuts and bolts, cracking nuts, and the idea of nipping up, I’d have spent a lot more time over the years enjoying my work on cars – rather than staring sullenly at rounded-off bolts...
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Re: How to use tools for newbies

Postby Frank » Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:42 pm

Calling Firey, calling firey :lol:
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Re: How to use tools for newbies

Postby fireyrob » Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:45 pm

frl0173 wrote:Calling Firey, calling firey :lol:


Too long to read... I have fun breaking stuff anyway ;)
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Re: How to use tools for newbies

Postby Glen » Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:06 pm

Nice work Jono

It all seems blatantly obvious after 35 odd years of muckin around with cars and bikes but for a newb it's all good stuff that's probably not so obvious.

Could you do a special abridged analysis of the importance of using the correct length bolt for firey :) :) :)
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Re: How to use tools for newbies

Postby Jonno » Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:28 pm

Glen wrote:Nice work Jono

It all seems blatantly obvious after 35 odd years of muckin around with cars and bikes but for a newb it's all good stuff that's probably not so obvious.

Could you do a special abridged analysis of the importance of using the correct length bolt for firey :) :) :)


Shank or thread length?

The bolt length length must be long enough to go through the main parent item, the bracket or secondary item and indeed may be the exact same item doubled, tripled ect and this is where shank length before the thread can be important, basically the shank wont wear into the bolted items inside diameter hole like threaded area can, so in this case enough shank to make the distance through all bolted items then threaded for the rest of the length allowing additional length for washers and nuts and the end result should idealy be with a few or more threads protruding through the last nut or nut if only one is required. Now if you are bolting into a blind threaded hole or item the basic same idea applies ok :roll:

Anyway, furthermore and forthwith and so on and so forth... if your bolt length is too short firey your nut/s may strip off then the whole shooting match is gone..

Clear as mud :lol:

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How about a bucket of steam please?

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Re: How to use tools for newbies

Postby fireyrob » Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:42 pm

Im still looking for the left handed hammer... ;)
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Re: How to use tools for newbies

Postby Smitty » Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:21 pm

Jonno wrote:.....

The bolt length length must be long enough to go through the main parent item, the bracket or secondary item and indeed may be the exact same item doubled, tripled ect and this is where shank length before the thread can be important, basically the shank wont wear into the bolted items inside diameter hole like threaded area can, so in this case enough shank to make the distance through all bolted items then threaded for the rest of the length allowing additional length for washers and nuts and the end result should idealy be with a few or more threads protruding through the last nut or nut if only one is required. Now if you are bolting into a blind threaded hole or item the basic same idea applies ok :roll: Anyway, furthermore and forthwith and so on and so forth... if your bolt length is too short firey your nut/s may strip off then the whole shooting match is gone.. !



phark Jonno...wot you on legal..????
I have heard barristers go on like that in court...but try saying that quote OUT LOUD




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THE TEN BEST TOOLS OF ALL TIME

Postby Jonno » Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:17 am

THE TEN BEST TOOLS OF ALL TIME

There are only ten things in this world you need to fix any motorcycle, any place, any time. Forget the Snap-On Tools truck; it's never there when you need it. Besides, there are only ten things in this world you need to fix any car, any place, any time.

1. Duct Tape: Not just a tool, a veritable Swiss Army knife in stickum and plastic. It's safety wire, body material, radiator hose, upholstery, insulation, tow rope, and more in one easy-to-carry package. Sure, there's a prejudice surrounding duct tape in concourse competitions, but in the real world everything from Le Mans - winning Porsches to Atlas rockets uses it by the yard. The only thing that can get you out of more scrapes is a 50cents and a phone booth.

2. Vice-Grips: Equally adept as a wrench, hammer, pliers, baling wire twister, round off bolt heads, breaker-off of frozen bolts, and wiggle-it-till-it-falls off tool. The heavy artillery of your toolbox, Vice Grips are the only tool designed expressly to fix things screwed up beyond repair. If nothing else is available, they can also be used to transfer intense welding heat to the palm of your hand.

3. Spray Lubricants: A considerably cheaper alternative to new doors, alternators, and other squeaky items. Slicker than pig phlegm. Repeated soakings of WD-40 will allow the main hull bolts of the Andrea Dora to be removed by hand. Strangely enough, an integral part of these sprays is the infamous little red tube that flies out of the nozzle if you look at it cross-eyed, one of the ten worst tools of all time.

4. Margarine Tubs With Clear Lids: If you spend all your time under the bike looking for a frendle pin that caromed off the peedle valve when you knocked both off the seat, it's because you eat butter. Real mechanics consume pounds of tasteless vegetable oil replicas, just so they can use the empty tubs for parts containers afterward. (Some, of course, chuck the butter-colored goo altogether or use it to repack wheel bearings.) Unlike air cleaners and radiator lips, margarine tubs aren't connected by a time/space wormhole to the Parallel Universe of Lost Frendle Pins.

5. Big Rock At The Side Of The Road: Block up a tire. Smack corroded battery terminals. Pound out a dent. Bop nosy know-it-all types on the noodle. Scientists have yet to develop a hammer that packs the raw banging power of granite or bluestone. This is the only tool with which a "made in India" emblem is not synonymous with the user's maiming.

6. Plastic Zip Ties: After twenty years of lashing down stray hoses and wired with twistie ties, some genius brought a slightly slicked up version to the auto parts market. Fifteen zip ties can transform a hulking mass of amateur-quality rewiring from a working model of the Brazilian rain forest into something remotely resembling a wiring harness. Of course, it works both ways. When buying used bikes, subtract $ 100.00 for each zip tie under the tank.

7. Ridiculously Large Standard Screwdriver With Lifetime Guarantee: Let's admit it. There's nothing better for prying, chiseling, lifting, breaking, splitting, or mutilating than a huge flat-bladed screwdriver, particularly when wielded with gusto and a big hammer. This is also the tool of choice for oil filters so insanely located they can only be removed by driving a stake in one side and out the other. If you break the screwdriver - and you will, just like Dad or your shop teacher said - who cares? It's guaranteed.

8. Fencing Wire: Commonly known as BSA muffler brackets, baling wire holds anything that's too hot for tape or ties. Like duct tape, it's not recommended for concourse contenders since it works so well you'll never replace it with the right thing again. Baling wire is a sentimental favorite in some circles, particularly with BSA, Triumph, and other single and vertical twins set.

9. Bonking Stick: - This monstrous tuning fork with devilishly pointy ends is technically known as a tie-rod- end separator, but how often do you separate tie-ends? Once every decade, if you're lucky. Other than medieval combat, its real use is the all purpose application of undue force, not unlike that of the huge flat-bladed screwdriver. Nature doesn't know the bent metal panel or frozen exhaust pipe that can stand up to a good bonking stick. (Can also be used to separate tie-rod ends in a pinch, of course, but does a lousy job of it).

10.A 50 cent coin and a Phone Booth: See #1 above.
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More on tools

Postby Jonno » Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:26 am

HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate expensive parts not far from the object we are trying to hit.

MECHANIC'S KNIFE: Used to open and slice through the contents of cardboard cartons delivered to your front door; works particularly well on boxes containing seats and motorcycle jackets.

ELECTRIC HAND DRILL: Normally used for spinning steel Pop rivets in their holes
until you die of old age, but it also works great for drilling mounting holes in fenders just above the brake line that goes to the rear wheel.

PLIERS: Used to round off bolt heads.

HACKSAW: One of a family of cutting tools built on the Ouija board principle. It transforms human energy into a crooked, unpredictable motion, and the more you attempt to influence its course, the more dismal your future becomes.
VISE-GRIPS: Used to round off bolt heads. If nothing else is available, they can also be used to transfer intense welding heat to the palm of your hand.

OXYACETYLENE TORCH: Used almost entirely for lighting various flammable
objects in your garage on fire. Also handy for igniting the grease inside a brake
drum you're trying to get the bearing race out of.

WHITWORTH SOCKETS: Once used for working on older British cars and motorcycles, they are now used mainly for impersonating that 9/16 or 1/2 socket you've been searching for the last 15 minutes.

DRILL PRESS: A tall upright machine useful for suddenly snatching flat metal
bar stock out of your hands so that it smacks you in the chest and flings your beer across the room, splattering it against that freshly painted part you were drying.

WIRE WHEEL: Cleans rust off old bolts and then throws them somewhere under the
workbench with the speed of light. Also removes fingerprint whorls and hard-earned guitar calluses in about the time it takes you to say, "Ouch...."

HYDRAULIC FLOOR JACK: Used for lowering a motorcycle to the ground after you have installed your new front disk brake setup, trapping the jack handle firmly
under the front fender.

EIGHT-FOOT LONG DOUGLAS FIR 2X4: Used for levering a motorcycle upward off a hydraulic jack.

TWEEZERS: A tool for removing wood splinters.

PHONE: Tool for calling your neighbor to see if he has another hydraulic floor jack.

SNAP-ON GASKET SCRAPER: Theoretically useful as a sandwich tool for spreading mayonnaise; used mainly for getting dog-doo off your boot.

E-Z OUT BOLT AND STUD EXTRACTOR: A tool that snaps off in bolt holes and
is ten times harder than any known drill bit.

TIMING LIGHT: A stroboscopic instrument for illuminating grease buildup.

TWO-TON HYDRAULIC ENGINE HOIST: A handy tool for testing the tensile strength of ground straps and brake lines you may have forgotten to disconnect.

CRAFTSMAN 1/2 x 16-INCH SCREWDRIVER: A large motor mount prying tool that inexplicably has an accurately machined screwdriver tip on the end without the handle.

BATTERY ELECTROLYTE TESTER: A handy tool for transferring sulfuric acid from a car battery to the inside of your toolbox after determining that your battery is dead as a doornail, just as you thought.

AVIATION METAL SNIPS: See hacksaw.

TROUBLE LIGHT: The mechanic's own tanning booth. Sometimes called a drop light, it is a good source of vitamin D, "the sunshine vitamin," which is not otherwise found under motorcycles at night. Health benefits aside, it's main purpose is to consume 40-watt light bulbs at about the same rate that 105-mm howitzer shells might be used during, say, the first few hours of the Battle of the Bulge. More often dark than light, its name is somewhat misleading.

PHILLIPS SCREWDRIVER: Normally used to stab the lids of old-style paper-and-tin oil cans and splash oil on your shirt; can also be used, as the name implies, to round off Phillips screw heads.
AIR COMPRESSOR: A machine that takes energy produced in a coal-burning power plant 200 miles away and transforms it into compressed air that travels by hose to a Chicago Pneumatic impact wrench that grips rusty bolts last tightened 60 years ago by someone in Springfield, and rounds them off.
PRY BAR: A tool used to crumple the metal surrounding that clip or bracket you needed to remove in order to replace a 50 cent part.

HOSE CUTTER: A tool used to cut hoses 1/2 inch two short.
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Re: How to use tools for newbies

Postby Tack » Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:07 am

What about measurements?

There is a tad. A whisker. A Hair. a bees dick. A poofteenth. A smidgen. two fifths of fuck all. A frag.

Apparently the measuring system works like this:

1 Poofteenth = 1/12 of a Hair

1 Hair = 1/4 of a Bee's Dick

1 Bee's Dick = 1/12 of a Tad

1 Tad = A Poofteenth more than a Smidgen

However I'm not sure where A frag and two fifths of fuck all fit into this system.
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Re: How to use tools for newbies

Postby corvus2606 » Wed Apr 01, 2009 10:16 am

ok,

let me clarify

ITS NOT DUCT TAPE!!!!!!!

Its called gaffer tape, or gaffers tape, or race tape, or 100 mile an hour tape. Duct tape is the basic plastic crap that doesnt do anything, its glorified electrical tape!!!
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Re: How to use tools for newbies

Postby Smitty » Wed Apr 01, 2009 10:22 am

Tack wrote:What about measurements?

There is a tad. A whisker. A Hair. a bees dick. A poofteenth. A smidgen. two fifths of fuck all. A frag.

Apparently the measuring system works like this:

1 Poofteenth = 1/12 of a Hair

1 Hair = 1/4 of a Bee's Dick

1 Bee's Dick = 1/12 of a Tad

1 Tad = A Poofteenth more than a Smidgen

However I'm not sure where A frag and two fifths of fuck all fit into this system.


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a frag is just a bit more than a tad
and two fifths of fuck all..is just a tad more than nothing at all :twisted:
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Re: How to use tools for newbies

Postby Jonno » Wed Apr 01, 2009 10:35 am

corvus2606 wrote:ok,

let me clarify

ITS NOT DUCT TAPE!!!!!!!

Its called gaffer tape, or gaffers tape, or race tape, or 100 mile an hour tape. Duct tape is the basic plastic crap that doesnt do anything, its glorified electrical tape!!!


Point taken and I stand corrupted, but hey, you knew what it was anyway :P
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Re: How to use tools for newbies

Postby IsleofNinja » Wed Apr 01, 2009 10:18 pm

corvus2606 wrote:ok,

let me clarify

ITS NOT DUCT TAPE!!!!!!!

Its called gaffer tape, or gaffers tape, or race tape, or 100 mile an hour tape. Duct tape is the basic plastic crap that doesnt do anything, its glorified electrical tape!!!


Duct tape (silver is normally best - non re enforced) is great for packaging ebay items , making sure ALL the tent pegs make it to the intended destination , sealing off various orifices such as carbs inlet ports etc when you finally manage the get that mongrel airbox out of the GPZ just to realise you have run out of time (and light) and need to continue the mission tomorrow !?

Gaffer tape (re enforced) AKA 100MPH tape / race tape , is a stronger but less flexible making it the ducks guts for sticking bits of brocken fairing back together after you bin it in the middle of nowhere.
Attaching those extra items you just remembered that just plain will not fit in the tank bag , gearsack or camelback (despite dicovering new limits to zipper strength)!? -Repairing the holes that magically appear in your tent when some drunken bastard throws an aerosol can into a nearby campfire on a night forcast for rain :twisted:
-Adding that much appreciated strip to the top of your clear visor on those long rides home into the sun.(since you stayed another round or two longer than intended) :roll:

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Re: How to use tools for newbies

Postby hoffy » Wed Apr 01, 2009 10:35 pm

plus, if in doubt take it to daves
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