Tuning carbies - Altitude vs. coast?

[MadKaw]

Why is KSRC all about if your a racer you are cool and if you raced more than another person that makes you cooler etc etc...and if you have achieved a better result in racing than someone else that makes you a better more knowledgeable person somehow..and if your faster than a racer then you are a hero..and you have a massive penis ??

NEWSFLASH: Not everyone is a racer or wants to race, it does not mean they dont know what they are talking about or dont have skills in other areas, or are not nice people to hang around with..this club is getting too self obsessed with the speed at which people ride at as to whether they are entitled to have an opinion on the forum..it almost makes me sick.

Who gives a fuck what people have achieved..Who I consider my best friends outside KSRC dont even watch racing or even ridden a motorcycle, does that mean they are fuckwits, or any less worthy than anyone else I know in KSRC..or they are in anyway less cool ??

How about we stop measuring our cocks against one another and stick to the facts....whether you are a fuking racer or not..it does not matter..

2c

Yeh, this place is shit... Full of egotistical, know all racers or heros that are faster than racers...
It makes me sick too.

I'm out of here and I suggest anyone who agrees leaves too..

That'll teach all those, fast, self obsessed, opinionated types.!
Who ever they are.!!

Lets go.!!!

[hoffy]

And another thing that pisses me off while Im at it is...

the people that harp on and give road riders the lecture that the road is dangerous and they should not be riding on the road and we all should be on the track..we should all sell our road bikes and get trackies..etc etc..

I like road riding, so jam it up ya clackers !!

[hoffy]

Yeh, this place is shit... Full of egotistical, know all racers or heros that are faster than racers...
It makes me sick too.

I'm out of here and I suggest anyone who agrees leaves too..

That'll teach all those, fast, self obsessed, opinionated types.!
Who ever they are.!!

Lets go.!!!

I dont think it's a 'let's go' call...but hey it's your call..

Im with ya....fark racers !

Hang on, you have been a racer.....but the question is where you a better racer than FONC...cause if you were not then your shitter than FONC..

In the words of the famous Watt-Man..What have you achieved Dave ?? I'd like to know ?? as this somehow represents the size of your manhood....somehow..

[MadKaw]

Don't bring the Watt man into this.. He is the worse type, one of those opinionated (who can forget the brake thread ) hero's that is faster than racers... and he wants to sell his road bike to get a trackie... he's evil.!

and for your information, What I achieved from racing was......







A big hole in my bank account
An intermit knowledge of stripping and rebuilding a zxr750
Becoming very familiar with the inside of most tracks pit garages.. without ever knowing the track..
and only seeing my family through the frame of a zxr for 2 years..

Ah... those were the days..

[hoffy]

Don't bring the Watt man into this.. He is the worse type, one of those opinionated (who can forget the brake thread ) hero's that is faster than racers... and he wants to sell his road bike to get a trackie... he's evil.!

and for your information, What I achieved from racing was......

A big hole in my bank account
An intermit knowledge of stripping and rebuilding a zxr750
Becoming very familiar with the inside of most tracks pit garages.. without ever knowing the track..
and only seeing my family through the frame of a zxr for 2 years..

Ah... those were the days..

I think your drawing a long bow that I think the Watt-Man is evil , but hey youve never been one to put words in someone's mouth for them..

I will wait for FONC's racing experience then compare your racing experiences and therefore your potential suitability for providing commentary on carby re-jetting in varying altitiudes..unless you are a "hero that is faster than a racer" in which case you are entitled to comment of your own free will and be loved and admired by all.

[hoffy]

and he wants to sell his road bike to get a trackie... he's evil.!

I thought only road riders were evil ??

[hoffy]

Cmon, We can make this thread of the year if we work as a team !!

[Wattie]

Hoff, get back in ya hiatus box ya big poof.

Fonc said "those who know me know what i have achieved"

i wantred to know what he had achived as i dont know him

stop reading what you want out of posts.

as for being fast. when you beat me you can tell me whats right and wrong untill then shut up

[dave#3]

Cmon, We can make this thread of the year if we work as a team !!

Fuck you, I'm not teaming up with a road-only-racer-bashing-poofter-loving-barging-riding-homo-hero like you to make any thread the 'thread of the year'

C'mon Fonc, surely there's more evil on the intrawebs that you can go and cure and leave poor Gos alone for a while

[Benno]

Come on guys, it's early 2009! We have a whole year to go before we get a winning thread...... don't we?

[6maniac]

Pffft....ce type ne peut pas même parler français approprié !!!

Je fart dans sa direction générale !!!

[IsleofNinja]

Where did I tell Bogan, Mate lets dial in those cams and while we do that we will put in some 12.5:1 JE pistons give the valves a quick 3-way cut bit of a port job. Maybe we should knife blade the crank journals as well. Then we will run Av-Gas (appologies Gos "power kerosene") no fuck it lets go methanol and we will bolt on some 50mm Lectrons!!!! That would be getting close to an aggressive tune!!! Nah Fuck it I'm going to ring Valentino Rossi and ask him to lend us his Yamaha for the weekends he is not using it!

Ummmm This may well be dragging up old news again but I found myself wondering about this obsession you have with " power kerosene ' and why you seem to like nailing Gos with it on pretty much all your posts???

Forgive my ignorance but I could not find the mention of it by 'Gosling1' on this thread - am I missing something here????




BTW ---- the methods you describe above would certainly make the average red motor 6, old school Chev/Holden/Ford/Chrysler make some reasonable numbers over stock.But I thought we were talking about a relatively modern sports bike engine here

IE;
>The 12.5;1 JE pistons are definitely a plus in say a Rocket III or HD but not sure they would benefit the average sport bike too much !?

>3 way valve cut ???? 60's technology (factory 80's + Kwaka valve jobs offer far better flow!!)

>Port job ??? because???? you have access to CAD design and CNC milling machine and or 20 odd years of hand porting experience with the race results and flow bench figures to prove it????

> Knife bladed crank----Journals??? Last time I looked it was in fact the leading edges of the counterweights / throws that were subject to this
method though not a favoured tecnique according to many proffesional builders these days due to harmonic issues(another story)??
"Journals" are generally 'radiused' to prevent stress risers leading to cracking and ultimately crankshaft failure under sustained high RPM (Standard factory on ALL sports bikes - the journals that is!?)

> Lectrons not bad , prefer FCR's myself or better yet motronic or similar, Methanol would require 14:1 + comp actually to be truly beneficial / "aggresive tune"!? --- personal tuner pref I suppose.

> You missed the most important power enhancers mate ---- Double overhead foxtails and chrome grease nipples!!!!

>>>>>>Just my unwarranted observation - just getting with the general 'flow' of the thread I guess???




(munch , munch , munch)


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[FONC]

:lol: not much mate.....but this quote is a clue.....

.....Where do you get off telling people they are wrong when they are not....

Its just another classic case of Concave-Dick syndrome. (Like TinyDick syndrome, yet somehow even smaller )

I only made the penis statement after reading this. I could see Goose was very versed in the subject by his comments so he might actually be afflicted by the syndrome!!! As for my own , well I can see it, even without my glasses, it is definitely not tiny. In fact I'm not sure how Goose ever came to that decision. More bullshit to drive home a point?????
Oh and by the way to those who are interested in my "racing" career. I have never raced a motor cycle anywhere! I have ridden motorcycles since I was about 8yo. Still riding, still here!
I never stated I raced motorbikes anywhere???? I did have some good mates that have raced motorbikes and they where good riders back then A + B graders. I used to ride with them. When I was not away racing in my chosen sport at the time. I raced as I said successfully from 1970-1983 and I am still very happy with what I achieved. No bullshit here. I am sorry that you have all assumed I raced bikes so I thought I better clarify that for you.
I currently ride a ZRX1200S which has a set of CVK36mm Kiehins not 40's "like90% of all 4 stroke Kawasakis" ????

[FONC]

Cmon, We can make this thread of the year if we work as a team !!

Fuck you, I'm not teaming up with a road-only-racer-bashing-poofter-loving-barging-riding-homo-hero like you to make any thread the 'thread of the year'

C'mon Fonc, surely there's more evil on the intrawebs that you can go and cure and leave poor Gos alone for a while

G'day dave#3,

Sometimes dave we just gotta stand our ground!

Isleof Ninja,

Why don't you try those mods one at a time and I am sure you will see an improvement and or increase in hp and or torque each mod. I say this because if you do them all at once you will not know what benefits/gains you have made.

[FONC]

Where did I tell Bogan, Mate lets dial in those cams and while we do that we will put in some 12.5:1 JE pistons give the valves a quick 3-way cut bit of a port job. Maybe we should knife blade the crank journals as well. Then we will run Av-Gas (appologies Gos "power kerosene") no fuck it lets go methanol and we will bolt on some 50mm Lectrons!!!! That would be getting close to an aggressive tune!!! Nah Fuck it I'm going to ring Valentino Rossi and ask him to lend us his Yamaha for the weekends he is not using it!

Ummmm This may well be dragging up old news again but I found myself wondering about this obsession you have with " power kerosene ' and why you seem to like nailing Gos with it on pretty much all your posts???

Forgive my ignorance but I could not find the mention of it by 'Gosling1' on this thread - am I missing something here????




BTW ---- the methods you describe above would certainly make the average red motor 6, old school Chev/Holden/Ford/Chrysler make some reasonable numbers over stock.But I thought we were talking about a relatively modern sports bike engine here

IE;
>The 12.5;1 JE pistons are definitely a plus in say a Rocket III or HD but not sure they would benefit the average sport bike too much !?

>3 way valve cut ???? 60's technology (factory 80's + Kwaka valve jobs offer far better flow!!)

>Port job ??? because???? you have access to CAD design and CNC milling machine and or 20 odd years of hand porting experience with the race results and flow bench figures to prove it????

> Knife bladed crank----Journals??? Last time I looked it was in fact the leading edges of the counterweights / throws that were subject to this
method though not a favoured tecnique according to many proffesional builders these days due to harmonic issues(another story)??
"Journals" are generally 'radiused' to prevent stress risers leading to cracking and ultimately crankshaft failure under sustained high RPM (Standard factory on ALL sports bikes - the journals that is!?)

> Lectrons not bad , prefer FCR's myself or better yet motronic or similar, Methanol would require 14:1 + comp actually to be truly beneficial / "aggresive tune"!? --- personal tuner pref I suppose.

> You missed the most important power enhancers mate ---- Double overhead foxtails and chrome grease nipples!!!!

>>>>>>Just my unwarranted observation - just getting with the general 'flow' of the thread I guess???




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Re: AVGAS - Brisbane

Postby Gosling1 on Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:26 pm
Some interesting changes regarding aircraft kerosine will be taking place from 1 January 2009....

(OK, I'll call it AvGas 'coz it sounds so much cooler.... )

Currently, anyone wishing to purchase AvGas needs a fuel passbook from their local Controlling body - for bike racers, thats MA. This rule is current until 31/12/08.

From next year, you will no longer require an MA passbook - but you *will* need to be a member of a sporting organisation, which has applied for and been granted, an exemption for the use of Leaded Fuels in Motorsports. For a few of us here, thats the PCRA.

If you show your Club membership card to a supplier, and they are satisfied (ie, you are who you say you are, and most suppliers will probably need photo evidence in order 'to be satisfied'), then you can purchase leaded AvGas without any further requirements.

There is a thread about this on the PCRA website. Its about bloody time, I used to just rock up to the local airport, and fill a couple of jerry-cans for about $28 each back in 2001 !! It was a piece of piss..........didn't even have to show a membership of a club !!



Here you go IsleofNinja
This is on this site looks like kerosine to me!