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ZX12R and 190 rear tyres

Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:50 pm

Howdy all,

Amazing what fantastic spring weather and the bike running like a new one can do for the soul.

No rants this time. I want to try and make my 12 "turn in" better. I have had the suspension reworked and it is much better than stock, though it can still be a tad awkward when it gets tight. I realise the girl will never be a ZX10 but with a bit of fiddling I reckon it can be better.

I have been told that by fitting a 190 size rear tyre can make my bike drop into turns much easier. I would like to know if anyone has dropped from the standard 200 to a 190 and if it was better in turns?

Cheers everyone and lets hope that fantastic spring riding weather returns soon.

Mick

Re: ZX12R and 190 rear tyres

Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:18 pm

yes
i have
went from a dunlop sportmax in a 200
to a pirelli diablo corsa 190 rear
very very nimble for such a big heavy bike

Re: ZX12R and 190 rear tyres

Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:30 pm

I would go the 190's

than you also have different profiles as well, 55 profiles would make it tip in quicker again ;)

Re: ZX12R and 190 rear tyres

Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:01 pm

Go a 190, it has a 6 inch rim, the same as all litre bikes on the market. the 200 was just KHI stroking their ego's..

Go Michelin's of course 8)

Put 6mm of spacers on the rear shock to raise the back up..

Drop the Yokes at the front 5mm over the forks..

And enjoy the twisties !!

Re: ZX12R and 190 rear tyres

Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:59 am

Thanks guys :D,

When the HPX's are done and dusted I will grab a set of Metzeler Sportec M3's and give them a run.

I think we have met on the road Hoffy. You were riding with Phil Harlum and crew to the 2007 Phillip Island WSBK, you and the fellas rounded me up at the Cann River end of the Monaro run down from Bombala (and earlier in the day at that huge downhill near Henry's Creek between Bredbo and Cooma....lol). I spoke to you at the Cann River Mobil servo. My bike was only just 3000k's old then ( and that was my road experience too after 25 years in the bush).

Thanks again guys.

Oh and another thing, what is the best way (not necessarily the cheapest either) to get my brakes up to scratch? They aren't the best now my riding has improved.

Cheers

Mick

Re: ZX12R and 190 rear tyres

Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:14 am

Mick ZX12R wrote:Thanks guys :D,

When the HPX's are done and dusted I will grab a set of Metzeler Sportec M3's and give them a run.

I think we have met on the road Hoffy. You were riding with Phil Harlum and crew to the 2007 Phillip Island WSBK, you and the fellas rounded me up at the Cann River end of the Monaro run down from Bombala (and earlier in the day at that huge downhill near Henry's Creek between Bredbo and Cooma....lol). I spoke to you at the Cann River Mobil servo. My bike was only just 3000k's old then ( and that was my road experience too after 25 years in the bush).

Thanks again guys.

Oh and another thing, what is the best way (not necessarily the cheapest either) to get my brakes up to scratch? They aren't the best now my riding has improved.

Cheers

Mick


G'day and welcome mate. I was with the Hoff and the crew and I remember catching up with you at Cann River. Good luck with the twelve, theres some pretty nimble ones around here let me tell you.
Last edited by Glen on Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:58 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Re: ZX12R and 190 rear tyres

Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:17 am

Glen wrote:G'day and welcome mate. I was with the Hoff and the crew at Cann River. I remember catching up with you at Cann River. Good luck with the twelve, theres some pretty nimble ones around here let me tell you.


But is that the bikes or the pilots Glen? Re brakes, from my understanding braided lines make a massive diffrence.

Re: ZX12R and 190 rear tyres

Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:26 am

Mick ZX12R wrote:I have been told that by fitting a 190 size rear tyre can make my bike drop into turns much easier. I would like to know if anyone has dropped from the standard 200 to a 190 and if it was better in turns?


apart from a front sprocket change...the best 'easy' mod you can do to a 12r

I junked a new 200 rear (fitted to get the bike roadworthy) for a 190
...Michelin. the difference is awesome. Do it!


hth
Smitty

Re: ZX12R and 190 rear tyres

Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:49 pm

No one goes back to a 200 after trying a 190 ;)

Re: ZX12R and 190 rear tyres

Thu Sep 04, 2008 6:11 pm

I've been running a 180 for the last 5 years on 2 bikes without and probs.

Re: ZX12R and 190 rear tyres

Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:35 pm

Mick ZX12R wrote:......I have been told that by fitting a 190 size rear tyre can make my bike drop into turns much easier. I would like to know if anyone has dropped from the standard 200 to a 190 and if it was better in turns?.......


Its one of the best changes you can make to the barge. Once you have gone to a 190 section, as Frog says, you will never go back to a 200.....

M3's are a great choice, and so are 2CT Pilot Roads (paging Strika is that the right name for that tyre ? :lol: ) - the dual-compound jobbies, get plenty grip *and* good mileage, incredible but true.....

Brakes - the cheapest mod is a set of EBC HH pads all round. Then, a 3-line braided kit from HEL. Import direct from the UK supplier, I only paid $140 delivered to Oz for this about 12 months ago - may be a tad more these days. Last - cable-tie the brake lever to your throttle - tight- for a minimum of 24 hours. This will purge every tiny morsel of air out of the system. Best done after you fit the braided lines and HH pads. This mod will give you the best braking possible from the stock master cylinder and calipers. It won't prevent brake fade under really harsh conditions ;) , but for normal tooling around the burbs, and 99% of most useage, fade should not be a problem anyway.

Hope that helps - gotta love a 12 !! :lol:

Re: ZX12R and 190 rear tyres

Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:57 am

Madeyes wrote:I've been running a 180 for the last 5 years on 2 bikes without and probs.

Fark mate you must leave some sweet black lines out of corners 8)

Re: ZX12R and 190 rear tyres

Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:42 pm

:lol: - I woulda thought a 180 to be a bit skinny on a 12 ?? p'raps not....

8)
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