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Re: HELP!!! installing two brothers can!!!

Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:22 pm

Nice looking can there Ninja, looks like the Termi pipe from the Ducati 696. Congrats.

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Re: HELP!!! installing two brothers can!!!

Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:05 am

Congrats Baby_Ninja on the bike bet it's sounds louder than my Kawasaki jet ski stock pipe :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: HELP!!! installing two brothers can!!!

Sat Jun 21, 2008 9:28 am

It sounded awesome on the run yesterday!!! But I reckon you need to ask if there was meant to be a baffle somewhere as its straight through!!! Dont be surprised when "the man" pulls you up soon ;)

Re: HELP!!! installing two brothers can!!!

Sat Jun 21, 2008 10:56 am

being such a big change in noise and esp exhaust gas flow did you fuel delivery need to be remapped?

Re: HELP!!! installing two brothers can!!!

Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:51 pm

its a carbie bike mate, so no remapping.... it pops and bangs on the overrun so i probably need to do something to the fuel delivery/spark delivery...

as im a newb, id appreciate some advice on if it is indeed fuel casuing the popping and banging... altho giving its now running leaner for given revs, i wouldnt have thought that would have been the case... :?

the bike probably does have some ignition radvance (i think) device to meet emission restrictions... it seems other carbie bikes like RS125 aprilia's have them... so maybe losing the ignition advance would help.... as i say im not the most naturally gifted mechanical person about... so some words of advice or a steer (or good whacking) in the right direction would be good... ;)

just checked the website, and there is a baffle which is a recommended accesory for the pipe, altho is not supplied as stock.... bah hummbug :roll:

i will check to see if the US site i used to buy the pipe can supply that for me ...

cheers guys....

i almost dont wanna put the baffle in cos my god this thing sounds ungodly to me... and i mean i a good way... i keep telling myself it sounds like a 1098 with termies.... altho big bore single cylinder dirt bike is probably closer to the truth..... ah we all allowed to dream right!!??? :twisted:

Re: HELP!!! installing two brothers can!!!

Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:43 pm

oh i thought they were fuel injected? i saw a review on one and was pretty shore it was injected? lolz :lol:

most probably needs bigger main jets?? ask kwaka and see what they say

Re: HELP!!! installing two brothers can!!!

Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:51 am

kleen air removal will stop alot of popping, banging and gurgleing 8)

you block the rubber air line going from the airbox to the rocker cover. very easy fix.

i cut the one on the Z and put a nylex in-line tap in it. from a sprinkler system :lol:

Re: HELP!!! installing two brothers can!!!

Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:07 am

kawasaki250 wrote:oh i thought they were fuel injected? i saw a review on one and was pretty shore it was injected? lolz :lol:

most probably needs bigger main jets?? ask kwaka and see what they say


the euro models are fuel injected.... we get the american model that has carbies.... they kept the carbies in the US to keep the price the same as the old model...

Re: HELP!!! installing two brothers can!!!

Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:11 pm

the 'baffles' for the 2 bros cans are rubbish, extra $90 for the look of a gold end tip.

Numerous guys on another forum bought the baffle thinking it would quiet the pipes, they were all disappointed. Most
reported barely any difference at all.

As for the popping on decel, on a carbie bike you could get a Jet kit changing out the shim sizes and tune - although this is certainly not necessary for merely having a slip on pipe.

Just live with it, makes the bike sound mean.

if you get a highflow filter, you'll defenitely need to rejet, although i'm not sure wny you'd bother on a 250.

Re: HELP!!! installing two brothers can!!!

Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:32 pm

BikerBoy wrote:the 'baffles' for the 2 bros cans are rubbish, extra $90 for the look of a gold end tip.

Numerous guys on another forum bought the baffle thinking it would quiet the pipes, they were all disappointed. Most
reported barely any difference at all


I thought they made a noticeable, though not significant, impact on noise. The reason we got them was that if Cath copped a canary for the exhausts being too loud we had something to build a more comprehensive spud into.

Re: HELP!!! installing two brothers can!!!

Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:31 pm

the two brothers website says the baffle (their marketing department calls it a POWER-TIP P1-R :roll: ) reduces noise by 3dB!!! ie jack shit... think i will save the money and just go deaf like BM!! :D

i do like the mean sound of the crackign and popping on the overrun, but im aware it also probably sounds a bit try hard... something which im not...

it getting harder and harder for cops to 'canary' bikes with loud pipes as many bikes roll off the showroom floor with more that the "allowed" 98dB... the= most they can do is go via the EPA (environmental protection agency) and say the noise is excessive... in which case, pop the old can on... a 20 minute job... and bob's your uncle... ;)

coppers usually do like to avoid as much paper work as possible as im sure aardie may attest to... so i figure if im not drag racing some idiot down george street on a saturday night, i should be fine...

Re: HELP!!! installing two brothers can!!!

Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:38 pm

given i was initially deciding between a yoshi and two brothers... her is a photo coparing the two... fireyrob's baby is providing the yoshi for comparison
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my baby with two brothers carbon fibre can with "magnesium" end cap.... oooo
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rob's baby with carbon yoshi and cool purple baffle... oooo... ahhhhh
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Re: HELP!!! installing two brothers can!!!

Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:09 pm

i still bags not being behind you if we ride through the harbour tunnel

Re: HELP!!! installing two brothers can!!!

Wed Jun 25, 2008 9:58 am

oooooo lordy tunnels are good!!!!! ;)

i bags not being behind u in a tunnel when u get that M4 on the bug.... :shock:
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