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Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:05 pm

I-K wrote:
burkys_ninja wrote:3yrs at uni @$30k/yr thats $90k and you still need a job at the end.
Would you care to cite some examples of HECS-eligible university courses which cost $30K per year?
Yeah, I too would like to know what courses cost $30k per yr

From my understanding, if you are doing an engineering course, it's about $700 per unit, 4 units per sem = $2800 per sem, 2 sem per year = $5600 per yr.

A typical 4 yrs course will be about $22,400.
Is that correct? or did I miss out something?


Now how much is that brand new ZX-14 ? :wink:

Tue Nov 07, 2006 9:36 am

Some degrees can be pretty bloody expensive, especially if you have to do post-grad study too (medicine etc).

I dunno about 30K a year though ;)

Engineering is closer to $7000 per year I think, so closer to $28,000 all up.

Tue Nov 07, 2006 9:59 am

Medical/Law degrees tend to be the most expensive.
Mine cost $16000, wait till you see what overseas students get charged.

Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:13 am

daffy67 wrote:Medical/Law degrees tend to be the most expensive.
Mine cost $16000,


If that's all the whole med/law degree cost you, you must've done it a while ago now...

wait till you see what overseas students get charged.


Yes. Because they'll be pissing off home as soon as they complete their studies (so the rationale goes), they're not eligible for HECS, so their course fees cover the full cost of training them, plus a little extra to make it all worth the university in question's while.

Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:16 am

well i did Bach in Elec Eng / Diploma in Business Admin and i'm being hit for about $30,000+ for 5 years of drinking piss and being broke.

Its pretty simple.

HECS (or HELP as it is known now) can be reduced by 25% if its paid yearly upfront. Otherwise, its a percentage taken out of ur salary if u earn more than a certain figure (i think its about 28,000). Plus i also tried to get out of paying HECS by not declaring it on my employee tax thingy and i got done on my tax return.

http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/pathw ... 01_002_008

have a look at the ato link above, it should give u all the info u need.

Tue Nov 07, 2006 3:56 pm

I-K wrote:
daffy67 wrote: wait till you see what overseas students get charged.

Yes. Because they'll be pissing off home as soon as they complete their studies (so the rationale goes), they're not eligible for HECS, so their course fees cover the full cost of training them, plus a little extra to make it all worth the university in question's while.
Yeah a 'little' extra....I''m sure it's a 'little' when it's 3 times more.

Thu Nov 09, 2006 2:05 am

mrmina wrote:Plus i also tried to get out of paying HECS by not declaring it on my employee tax thingy and i got done on my tax return.

http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/pathw ... 01_002_008

have a look at the ato link above, it should give u all the info u need.


10+ years later I still havent declared it on my tax returns & yet to start paying. They better hurry because its not that long till I'm retiring :D

Thu Nov 09, 2006 7:38 am

Personally, I'm not convinced that my 6,000 per annum actually gets spent on my education, or if it is, then it's not being spent wisely.

Thu Nov 09, 2006 4:12 pm

MG wrote:10+ years later I still havent declared it on my tax returns & yet to start paying. They better hurry because its not that long till I'm retiring :D


well i guess thats another point. If u dont declare it on ur tax return then they wont know unless u get audited.

Re: ATTN: Uni students...

Thu Nov 09, 2006 8:02 pm

Neka79 wrote:.....reason i ask, is a freind of mine who only went to UNI cos her parents forced her, and they told her they would cover it if she went, is now being told they havent been paying it, theyve been doing the HECS thing, so shes gunna owe $30odd grand when shes done....and she never wanted to go to uni......


well, have you got her a pump-action, so she can unload a couple of rounds into the oldies, and claim the inheritance to pay off the debt ??

:roll: what a crock, she should turn a few tricks to pay off the debt, that would piss the parents off...

8)

Re: ATTN: Uni students...

Fri Nov 10, 2006 12:12 am

Gosling1 wrote: :roll: what a crock, she should turn a few tricks to pay off the debt, that would piss the parents off...

8)


No need to go that far... she should just turn the shed in the back of the olds' place into a hydroponic setup... earns a lot more money, brings joy to a whole lot more people, nowhere near as self-denigrating.

Sun Nov 12, 2006 8:54 am

all education has to be payed for by someone,even apprenticeships.and not by the tax payer.i actualy agree with hecs especially when there are the number of so called students who only do it to avoid GETTING a JOB :shock:

Sun Nov 12, 2006 7:10 pm

ProblemChild wrote:all education has to be payed for by someone,even apprenticeships.and not by the tax payer.i actualy agree with hecs especially when there are the number of so called students who only do it to avoid GETTING a JOB :shock:
YOu are wrong (edited for mod approval)

Sun Nov 12, 2006 8:02 pm

ProblemChild wrote:all education has to be payed for by someone,even apprenticeships.and not by the tax payer.


Yes, because it's not like doctors, research scientists, engineers and computer programmers don't put anything back into society over the course of their working lives.

i actualy agree with hecs especially when there are the number of so called students who only do it to avoid GETTING a JOB :shock:


Yes, because you can have such a swell time living on the sub-$200 per week that away-from-home Austudy pays these days.

Sun Nov 12, 2006 8:19 pm

I-K wrote:
ProblemChild wrote:all education has to be payed for by someone,even apprenticeships.and not by the tax payer.


Yes, because it's not like doctors, research scientists, engineers and computer programmers don't put anything back into society over the course of their working lives.

i actualy agree with hecs especially when there are the number of so called students who only do it to avoid GETTING a JOB :shock:


Yes, because you can have such a swell time living on the sub-$200 per week that away-from-home Austudy pays these days.


Actually I-K for Austudy (25 YO+) its actually $387 per fortnight, if you're under 25 and a Fulltime student and not considered independant its about $176 per fortnight............ I work there and even I know thats absurd.
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