12 or 14, that is the question ??

ZX6R, ZX10R, ZX14R, Ninja 1000 etc

12 or 14, that is the question ??

I would prefer a 12
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I would prefer a 14
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Postby FrogZ » Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:05 pm

much as I expected.... :prayer: Thankyou for blessing us with your intellectual wit.... :roll:
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Postby MickLC » Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:07 pm

Google images, second result....
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Postby Duane » Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:10 pm

Hey froggy, I just did a search on how good ZX12R's Are, and look what I found, some astonishing evidence on why the 14 is better than the 12, (pls see the scene of the accident)
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Postby Colette » Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:14 pm

Hoffy, you've got a lot to answer for :P
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Postby MickLC » Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:20 pm

Colette wrote:Hoffy, you've got a lot to answer for :P


You're right...very badly quoted from "The Life of Brian"

"He's a very naughty boy"
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Postby FrogZ » Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:24 pm

SO so sad....
for all you ppl whose google only picks up porn.... :lol: :lol:

THIS is a Monocoque chassis. The ONLY production bike til the 14 to have it. (anyone?) It is outlined in yellow and is also the airbox. The tops of the filters are the little red bits on top (purple arrow).
I have put in where the fuel tank sits in red.
It is the obv the full width of the bike.
Super light, super strong, able to take full on hits off a table drain (I hope :oops: )

What can I say guys, your "team" is not doing too well at the moment.
Should have used this "logic" stuff before :wink:
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Postby MickLC » Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:27 pm

Is that a bike? I thought it was some kind of abstract sculpture :?
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Postby Duane » Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:27 pm

frogzx12r wrote:SO so sad....
for all you ppl whose google only picks up porn.... :lol: :lol:

THIS is a Monocoque chassis. The ONLY production bike til the 14 to ahve it. (anyone?) It is outlined in yellow and is also the airbox. The tops of the filters are the little red bits on top.
I have put in where the fuel tank sits in red.

What can I say guys, your "team" is not doing too well at the moment.
Should have used this "logic" stuff before :wink:


Judging by the picture you just posted of your twelve, i'd say your "Teams" argument's going pretty badly too, and you call the 14 UGLY!!!
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Postby FrogZ » Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:33 pm

When you cant think of anything intelligent.... shheesh
So do you guys knuckles EVER come off the ground or are you SO retarded you cant even see your own hypocrasy ??? :roll:

Cmon you rattled the 12 cage guys, you got the soapboxer out of his drug enduced haze. lets make it worthwhile eh? :lol: :twisted: :lol:
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Postby MadKaw » Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:35 pm

frogzx12r wrote:...I stopped fighting when I realised that 10 riders would have to Google moncoque to see what it meant.....
BUWAHAHAHAHA



Which 10 riders.? We've got over a thousand on here so you'll have to be more specific... :wink:

Oh, and when a Monocoque framed bike wins moto gp or world superbikes, I'll get one.
Until then its like saying "my bike has clear rim stickers", It sounds good but if you think about it, it doesn't really achieve anything.... :wink:

The monocoque frame has really caught on though hasn't it. :roll:


BTW guys, I'm sure this is all a bit of lite hearted banter to get through the Monday blues, so lets not take it too seriously, ok.
We save the serious bagging for the Honda guys... :-)
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Postby Duane » Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:46 pm

Similar in concept to the frame first introduced for the ZX-12R, the ZX-14 frame is a huge backbone that travels over the top of the engine, and incorporates space for the airbox and battery box. Unlike the 12R, the 14 has two balance shafts in the engine that allowed Kawasaki engineers to rigidly mount the engine as a stressed member of the frame structure.

The new frame is both lighter and more rigid that the 12R's frame, and it allows Kawasaki to achieve a very centralized mass.


Improvements from the 12R frame in the 14.

The all-new engine, despite its increased displacement, is no larger physically than the engine in the 12R and produces a claimed 190 horsepower (200 with ram air effect). With 12-to-1 compression and 1352cc, torque output is huge, as well, with a claimed 113.5 pound/feet at 7,500 rpm. Pushing only 474 pounds dry, this engine understandably vaults the ZX-14 forward every time you ask it to, almost regardless of rpm level


More power!

Edmundson told us that the ZX-14 was "just a continuation of our legacy." In 2003, Kawasaki announced a "new focus on sportbikes", and introduced the ZX-6R followed by the '04 ZX-10R. Both bikes were great machines that shattered all kinds of performance and competition records, but Kawasaki felt they needed a "flagship" model, a motorcycle that would have a reputation for being the fastest machine available, while still being comfortable and pleasant to ride. The ZX-12R was plenty fast, but it just didn't have the reputation of being as comfortable and easy handling as some of the competing models.


Quote from Karl Edmundson, Kawasaki's Sportbike Product Manager (in america ?)


Just purchased the 14r, got the black one. Used to have the 12r what a big upgrade! Style, comfort, and power are a lot better. I’m a big guy and have ridden all the big liter bikes, this is deffinately top notch. If you can get one, go for it. You will be pleased!


Quote from an owner of both bikes.

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Postby FrogZ » Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:54 pm

Duane
Maybe if you READ other ppls posts instead of just your OWN you might see I already "admitted" :roll: all the shit you posted above
LADE DAH to you ...
I will down at PI for a trackie on Oct 6th.
i will be very rusty and on a ASS Triumph but I'll be there :wink:
Not a challenge (as such, its not MY bike after all) but :finga: or :partyman: or pottytrain2.gif its up to you

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Maayyytttteeee I have NEVER been serious in MY life.... 8)
but pics of shit... sheesh
must be one of those anal fixations... :wink:
mick i enjoy but Duanne, geez get a life mate. It wouldnt matter what I said you just fixate (see above)
...and if you noted I said I would have had a 10 at the price they are now.
It was and always will be price for me.....
If I liked em both and one was $3.5K cheaper (at the time) that paid for the PCIII, pipe and aircleaner.... :wink:
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Postby Duane » Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:57 pm

haha thats the result i wanted. :lol:

haha, btw, i actually quite like the 12, as well as the 14, i just wanted to see if someone felt strongly enough about the two bikes that they'd get frustrated.

Anyways, going home

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Postby FrogZ » Mon Aug 14, 2006 5:02 pm

...so I will see you there then... on a bike like :roll: :lol: :lol:
It will be my first time and I will need to follow someone around...
....for a couple of laps anyway :twisted:
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Postby FrogZ » Mon Aug 14, 2006 5:03 pm

It will be my first time and I will need to follow someone around...
....for a couple of laps anyway


Just so you didnt think I had COMPLETELY stopped talking shit.... 8)
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