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Postby Neka79 » Wed Aug 09, 2006 10:26 pm

Smitty wrote:
GlennB wrote:A 750cc would be great , depending on the power/weight and build it could be a good all rounder for those people who want that bit more torque feel in their 600cc but not that uncontrolled feel you get in a 1000cc. (only from what Ive heard/read as I have not ridden either :( ) I would be keen to buy one.
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we all forget..they ALREADY make a 750
its a sweet engine..in the Z750!
(and I say that after a weekends testing)

now all they gotta do its find a decent chassis
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would I buy one....? probably :D

true...but is it pokey ENOUGH to compete with the gix 750??

every1 i kno who has ridden it (mostly from here) has said that the motor lets down the z750 ....so NO..i dont think it would suffice..and i think they would need too much to get it happening...

again, im not saying im not for the idea...im saying i doubt it will happen beacause of these reasons...

i think any improvements from Moto GP will still filter to the zx10r tho..
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Postby Smitty » Wed Aug 09, 2006 11:28 pm

Neka79 wrote:true...but is it pokey ENOUGH to compete with the gix 750??

every1 i kno who has ridden it (mostly from here) has said that the motor lets down the z750 ....so NO..i dont think it would suffice..and i think they would need too much to get it happening...



Nath...any bike that pulls the front wheel off the throttle
is making a bit
the Z750 engine is tuned down...cams you see
according to my local friendly dealer

so I reckon if (and thats a big if) Kawasaki wanna compete
thats the starting point

mind you...a sleeved down 10r engine would be good too :twisted:

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Postby Neka79 » Wed Aug 09, 2006 11:55 pm

Smitty wrote:
Neka79 wrote:true...but is it pokey ENOUGH to compete with the gix 750??

every1 i kno who has ridden it (mostly from here) has said that the motor lets down the z750 ....so NO..i dont think it would suffice..and i think they would need too much to get it happening...



Nath...any bike that pulls the front wheel off the throttle
is making a bit
the Z750 engine is tuned down...cams you see
according to my local friendly dealer

so I reckon if (and thats a big if) Kawasaki wanna compete
thats the starting point


mind you...a sleeved down 10r engine would be good too :twisted:

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oh yea, welcome to the world of "nakeds" (see z1/FAZER/BANDIT/CB1300)

all have wickidly good motors..DETUNED... why make a kick ass donk & de-tune it is beyond me...neway...

wasmt criticising the z750..was just saying that the reports i heard rated the donk as the weakest point..doesnt mean its crap..just means the chassis, suspension,brakes etc are all brilliant, and it could do with a few more ponies...
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Postby Duane » Thu Aug 10, 2006 10:26 am

z750 is a sleeved down z1000 engine, which is a bored out 9r engine, with fuel injection.
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Postby Neka79 » Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:30 am

Duane wrote:z750 is a sleeved down z1000 engine, which is a bored out 9r engine, with fuel injection.

which makes u wonder why they didnt just stick a zx7r motor in it, and design a EFI unit for it?? we can see theres no point developing a brand new donk for one bike... but they did it with the ER ??

go figure...
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Postby SocialSecurity » Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:47 pm

a Z1000 motor is a heavily detuned ZX9R motor with a mm or 2 over bore and EFI :P
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Postby I-K » Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:07 pm

SocialSecurity wrote:a Z1000 motor is a heavily detuned ZX9R motor with a mm or 2 over bore and EFI :P


Is this where we again remind you that Z1000's actually make more power than ZX9's?
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Postby Smitty » Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:46 pm

I-K wrote:
SocialSecurity wrote:a Z1000 motor is a heavily detuned ZX9R motor with a mm or 2 over bore and EFI :P


Is this where we again remind you that Z1000's actually make more power than ZX9's?


EFI v Carbs :)
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Postby SocialSecurity » Fri Aug 11, 2006 1:00 am

where has that ever been stated?
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Postby Neka79 » Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:26 pm

Smitty wrote:
I-K wrote:
SocialSecurity wrote:a Z1000 motor is a heavily detuned ZX9R motor with a mm or 2 over bore and EFI :P


Is this where we again remind you that Z1000's actually make more power than ZX9's?


EFI v Carbs :)

EFI can smooth out the power curve ..but surely u dont get bolt on HP from EFI??
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Postby SocialSecurity » Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:45 pm

carbs have no trouble making the same peak HP figures... you can quite easily get the ideal ammount of fuel and air in up around the redline at WOT with the right jets

they just dont do everything else as nicely tho :cry:


unfortunately they unbolted more from the Z1000 motor than they bolted on :lol:
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Postby QLDZX6R » Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:40 pm

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QLDZX6R wrote:[Developing a new engine size for Moto-GP will have to have some road version for sales,look at the litre class at the moment.


dunno..i havent seen to many v-5 hondas on the road..or v-4 dukes...

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Postby Neka79 » Sun Aug 13, 2006 1:16 pm

QLDZX6R wrote:
Neka79 wrote:
QLDZX6R wrote:[Developing a new engine size for Moto-GP will have to have some road version for sales,look at the litre class at the moment.


dunno..i havent seen to many v-5 hondas on the road..or v-4 dukes...

Hey Neka
Hmmm is that Caparossis' V4 GP6 or the new V4 Desmosdici,and is that Colin Edwards doing a lap on the Yamaha M1 or the R1SP in Kenny Roberts livery.....

yup...and hopw many of the replica duke will be made/sold u think?? not quite as many as the current sales of gix1000, R1,cbr etc..

and yep..thats Colin on a R1 sps (or what ever there calling it)..with all up-spec gear...its still a R1...not an M1...so its got sum nice bolt on bits, but its not got an M1 motor in it, nor swing arm, nor chassis...
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Postby Phil » Sun Aug 13, 2006 2:05 pm

I-K wrote:
SocialSecurity wrote:a Z1000 motor is a heavily detuned ZX9R motor with a mm or 2 over bore and EFI :P


Is this where we again remind you that Z1000's actually make more power than ZX9's?


i dont think so tim :lol: , my 107K old 98 model beat wattie's z1000 by about 7-8 odd hp :wink:
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Postby SocialSecurity » Sun Aug 13, 2006 6:47 pm

gotta love the '9 8)
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