Walking for 2 years :'(

Are you selling your GPX?

I would love to own a GPX that can do 180 slightly up a hill into a headwind with a backpack full of stuff.....

[quote="ant"]But seriously, if you don't like what someone's said you have several options.
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Ant, that's fair enough, but this is a public forum and we don't want to be seen as supporting ridiculous statements like those that Kishy continues to make.

So, do I just delete every post of his that I disagree with, or do I ask him to stay, but mend his ways?

This is not a dig at the moderators/owners or the majority of people on here, cause we all know that there are 1/2 bad apples in every bunch. And it only takes 1 to ruin it for everyone.

Exactly. Which is why, when they pop up and start swinging their knob about the place, regaling everyone with stories of how long their wheelies are or how many times they've punched on with coppers or how they plan to chop a perfectly good carbon fibre pipe in half to get that icy-hot-stunta look, they need to have their nuts stomped on. Otherwise, they'll continue to clog up the forum with their noise and attract other dropkicks to join.

But seriously, if you don't like what someone's said you have several options.

- Click the back button
- Click the little X button on the top right hand corner of Internet Explorer

Who in their right mind still uses IE? *shudder*

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In amongst all your suggestions I don't seem to see "stand up for something you believe". I like the online forums I frequent to be free of knob-ends who can't put fingertip to keyboard without talking about how good they are and how they have it all figured out. For that reason, when I come across someone dribbling shit, I'm going to call them on it.

This is not a dig at the moderators/owners or the majority of people on here, cause we all know that there are 1/2 bad apples in every bunch. And it only takes 1 to ruin it for everyone.

Exactly. Which is why, when they pop up and start swinging their knob about the place, regaling everyone with stories of how long their wheelies are or how many times they've punched on with coppers or how they plan to chop a perfectly good carbon fibre pipe in half to get that icy-hot-stunta look, they need to have their nuts stomped on. Otherwise, they'll continue to clog up the forum with their noise and attract other dropkicks to join.

But seriously, if you don't like what someone's said you have several options.

- Click the back button
- Click the little X button on the top right hand corner of Internet Explorer

Who in their right mind still uses IE? *shudder*

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In amongst all your suggestions I don't seem to see "stand up for something you believe". I like the online forums I frequent to be free of knob-ends who can't put fingertip to keyboard without talking about how good they are and how they have it all figured out. For that reason, when I come across someone dribbling shit, I'm going to call them on it.

I put in the IE Comment as most people use it. I don't .

COULD I HAVE EVERYONE'S ATTENTION PLEASE:

This post is not about running from the cops, speedlimits, or, for that matter whether a GPX250 can do 180km/h.

This is about a motorcyclist facing possible jail time. It is a very serious matter for that individual.

If I can contribute constructively briefly: I ride a 1999 model GPX250 and I graduate law with honours Friday week. And you know what? In this situation neither of those facts mean anything. If you want (non-legal) advice from someone who has forgotten more law here than anyone else has probably ever learned and rides the same bike:

GET THE BEST CRIMINAL BARRISTER WHO SPECIALISES IN TRAFFIC MATTERS WHOM YOU CAN AFFORD WITH A LOAN IMMEDIATELY.

JMUZZ is the only person in this thread that I would listen to so far.

1. Do not mess around with this: take out a loan, do what you have to do, but hire a criminal barrister who specialises in traffic offences straight away.

Instruct your current solicitor you would like the best criminal barrister going who specialises in traffic offences to represent you in court and does he know of such a barrister and could he solicit his services pronto thankyou very much. (Note how I used the word "instruct," that is what a client does to his lawyer, believe it or not. And make clear to your solicitor that you don't mean do you know some mediocre barrister willing to overcharge me. You are instructing your solicitor to solicit the services of someone who is well known and well-respected **by the magistrate in question among others** in this area of the law. If your solicitor does not know of such a barrister, and it is quite likely he won't, ask him to contact the NSW Bar Association and find out who the go to man is in this area of the law currently).

2. After you have engaged the services of this $5000/day barrister, presumably the first thing you will have to decide is whether to plead guilty or not guilty to the charge. Whether you are going to cop it, or contest it. This is an important decision that you can only come to based upon your barrister's advice after he has heard the facts of the case from you.

Make the following point very clear to your barrister using these exact words if you like: "My bike physically will NOT go 183km/h. The radar must have malfunctioned. My bike literally is not capable of that speed. We have to provide the court with evidence that my bike simply cannot go that fast. These are the options that I can think of to provide the court with that evidence: a. manufacturer's specifications b. track test. c. dyno."

Ask your barrister straight up: "If we can prove to the court that my bike is not physically capable of the speed the police say their radar clocked me at, will the charge be thrown out?"

The second part of your story to make clear to your barrister is that you were defending yourself from a feared assault from a Skyline driver. Tell him the whole story. It is very relevant not only to your guilt or innocence, but also to sentencing if it comes to that. Fearing that the skyline driver wanted to assault you is why you were speeding at all in the first place. It is important to provide the court with an alternative to "this is another speeding $hitbag motorcyclist in front of me." Hire an expensive dark navy suit, white shirt, gold tie and black shoes that you will polish from Kenrays or equivalent. Tie a windsor knot in the tie. Get a nice conservative hair cut (it will grow out). Be very well clean shaven. Sit up and stand up straight. Look the magistrate right in the eye the whole time you are in the court room, both before and during when your case is being heard, with an innocent, I've got nothing to hide and I'm an upstanding citizen look. Not defiant. Humble, but innocent. Able to meet the eye and hold the gaze in a non-threatening manner. I'm not joking about any of that. To the letter.


This is a serious matter. It involves a criminal charge I presume ("Driving in a manner dangerous to the public"?). A criminal record can effect your life for years. What jobs you get. Where you can travel to (ever wanted to see the US? Don't get done DUI or for drugs, etc.) Your insurance for all sorts of things. Do not take internet advice on this matter. Don't bother to keep reading this thread.

Pick up the phone, contact your solicitor and instruct him that you want to engage the services of the best criminal barrister around who specialises in traffic matters to take over the carriage of your case. Does he know such a barrister? Pause. No immediate: "Yes I know just the man ..." No problem, can your solicitor contact the NSW BAR association and discover that information pronto. You are willing to pay. You want the best.

Pick up the phone now, or at 9am tomorrow morning. Go from there.

If you contest the case and lose and are given a sentence you cannot live with (and frankly, any criminal record regardless of the accompanying sentence is unacceptable with all the crap it can bring with it for you), private message me or contact Kellz and get my number from her. I'll put your solicitor onto someone who I think can get the best result possible, if he is still practicing.

Lastly, none of the above is legal advice, nor should it be understood or relied upon as legal advice. Any and all damage, injury or other detriment suffered, if any, may not be attributable to the above as it is not legal advice, and it is not to be relied upon as legal advice.

Yeah...Yeah.....what he said!

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Oh, and no being a smart-arse in court eh?

fark kane..draw breath son!!

that was probably a VERY usefull post...but as i cant concerntrate on nething oh look its a fly..flying past..oh wo...
oh yea...

im over the bullshit talking crap too, and altho i dont judge ppl (Kishy here for example)...i just dont think this is the best place to be posting crap like "outrun the cops" and that kinda shit... it cant help with our image, which we are trying to protect...how many of us like being harrassed every time we go for a ride??

fark kane..draw breath son!!

that was probably a VERY usefull post...but as i cant concerntrate on nething oh look its a fly..flying past..oh wo...
oh yea...

im over the bullshit talking crap too, and altho i dont judge ppl (Kishy here for example)...i just dont think this is the best place to be posting crap like "outrun the cops" and that kinda shit... it cant help with our image, which we are trying to protect...how many of us like being harrassed every time we go for a ride??

I made a point about this a while ago and agree. While it's great to go for a blat, maybe it's not the smartest thing to be publicising things like that. Once again as with Neka, I'm not judging anyone, far be it from me to, but feel it maybe best left unsaid.

An old saying comes to mind, "It is far better to remain silent and thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt!"

However, I will say this, while I am not angel, and have had traffic infringements issued to me in the past, I still have an admiration on the most part and a healthy respect, for the police who continually put there lives at risk in the interests of the greater community! As well as I have several good friends and former schoomates in various positions within law enforcement who I really object to people labelling as C---S. Preferably it is a word I would rather not see or hear in this forum or in life, and certainly not with reference to the boys in blue. We are all entitled to our own thought processes, however respect for others may be something that needs to be considered before making immature, and thoughtless comments on here.

fark kane..draw breath son!!

that was probably a VERY usefull post...but as i cant concerntrate on nething oh look its a fly..flying past..oh wo...
oh yea...

im over the bullshit talking crap too, and altho i dont judge ppl (Kishy here for example)...i just dont think this is the best place to be posting crap like "outrun the cops" and that kinda shit... it cant help with our image, which we are trying to protect...how many of us like being harrassed every time we go for a ride??

I made a point about this a while ago and agree. While it's great to go for a blat, maybe it's not the smartest thing to be publicising things like that. Once again as with Neka, I'm not judging anyone, far be it from me to, but feel it maybe best left unsaid.

An old saying comes to mind, "It is far better to remain silent and thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt!"

However, I will say this, while I am not angel, and have had traffic infringements issued to me in the past, I still have an admiration on the most part and a healthy respect, for the police who continually put there lives at risk in the interests of the greater community! As well as I have several good friends and former schoomates in various positions within law enforcement who I really object to people labelling as C---S. Preferably it is a word I would rather not see or hear in this forum or in life, and certainly not with reference to the boys in blue. We are all entitled to our own thought processes, however respect for others may be something that needs to be considered before making immature, and thoughtless comments on here.

what abt pricks..can i call ppl a prick??

cos if i can, ur the 1st person ill call a prick Strika...
if i cant call ua prick, can i call u a mongrel??

Prick and Mongrel I believe are generally acceptable not only in here, but also the wider community as a whole! And yes, as with previous name calling exchanges, piss orf, you low mongrel!! Go an get a licence will ya!!!!!!!

Well, I for one don't think myself nor the majority of people who have posted to this thread have been trivialising the issue. And most of these said posters have also said a) Get a good barrister/solicitor who specialises in these matters and b)Get your bike tested.

"Stop reading this thread"......why? We are attempting (in our own lovable, ksrc way) to show support for one of our own ranks. I know if it was me I'd appreciate it.

Just a bit by such a rant.

I have to go back on the 20th of July for another hearing to see if i am going to get a small Goal sentence or Home detention for 2 months

Just out of curosity Ninj, what are your priors regards to this one. Do ya have a longish record for speeding, etc?

That wasn't my point! Real men are man enough to put their hands up and admit when they've fucked up. If you are running from the cops you're more worried about what's happening behind you than in front of you..... next thing you're running lights and putting the lives of innocent people at risk.

I never run a red unless I slow right down first and have a good look and I doubt if I would behave any differently with blue lights flashing behind me either.

I have bolted from the cops on a few occasions during my driving/riding career and I have never put anyone in danger. The trick is to use whatever 'lead' you have to dart up a driveway or into some bush and then piss-bolt away on foot. You remove yourself as far from the offending vehicle as fast as you can and then lie through your teeth about it later if need be.

Once several years ago I was on my way up to visit a woman I knew at Melany, it was 3am, I was horny and I was pissed. I usually did a little shooting up on her property so I through the pump-action shot gun into the passenger seat foot-well and a handful of cartridges on the seat and took off. " This was 14 odd years ago, well before 'political' correctness screwed out happy little nation"

I had to detour to the night owl at buranda to get some smokes and halfway up Logan road there was a cop standing at the lights, He was alone, stopping traffic because a semi was coming through with a house on it. He put his hand up and I slowed down and stopped in the centre lane. I had stopped about 50 meters away though! After a minute he looked up and waved me forward, directing me to pull up beside him.

Being a good citizen I complied and as I stopped he bent down and stuck his beak at the window, looked across at the shotgun and asked me if this was my vehicle. With my "rum" laden breath I replied "yes officer" then I slammed on the gas and turned left up the side road with him screaming out "STOP STOP" behind me.

I took the second left and then darted up into the driveway of a block of flats and parked up on the grass at its end. I threw the gun in the back and covered it with some crap. Then I locked the car and bolted, jumping fences and crossing streets until I found myself at the hospital at greenslopes where I hid out for 2 hours before calling a cab and getting a lift to a friends.

They never found the car thankfully and though they sent a team to the address on my license they found squat because I didn't live there did I There were other occasions, pulled up on the side of the road at midnight, having a piss by the back wheel outside some house on some street. Just minding my own business when a cop car comes along and does a quick U-turn to bust me for whatever then could. So chameleon bolts off down the driveway, jumping fences and crossing streets until he is a good kilometer away. That time they impounded the car but I got it back 2 days later and no dramas.


But the reality is this Jase, if you are having a piss at 12am and the cops pull up beside you, you will just flash your ID and have a joke with them and go on your way. That is how it works when your a cop is it not! I have seen it for myself first hand.

You really can't comment on this issue of "bolting" then can you, not with any degree of detachment anyway.

But the reality is this Jase, if you are having a piss at 12am and the cops pull up beside you, you will just flash your ID and have a joke with them and go on your way. That is how it works when your a cop is it not! I have seen it for myself first hand.

You really can't comment on this issue of "bolting" then can you, not with any degree of detachment anyway.

Actually, that's not quite how it works. But I'm not going to go into that here....

Believe it or not, I wasn't always a copper. I've done stupid things. And when ever I got busted by the local copper, I was never cowardly enough to run away...

Anyway, back on topic.

Kane, the advice you've given Ninje (Ninje??) is all well and good, but at $5,000 a day (do they give blow jobs for that amount?), I think I'd rather walk!!!